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<blockquote data-quote="atatbl" data-source="post: 565915" data-attributes="member: 12890"><p>Within reason, no violation of any contract between two parties is "OK". In fact, theory would dictate that it wouldn't even be OK unless and exception was spelled out. That's all fine and dandy.</p><p></p><p>Then it gets applied, through actions, in real life. I would hope that we all understand that we don't live in a perfect world. Especially today; the world is "changing" quicker than it used to. Most argue that it's changing quicker than we can evolve to meet in a healthy manner. Not only physically, but more importantly society as a whole. The right thing to do is not always clear anymore (and I am not necessarily talking about working off the clock here). </p><p></p><p>Something as simple as whether or not to work off the clock affects more than just that action. In this case, people do it for work/life quality reasons. That's the only real point I have heard people argue vehemently on here. It's hard to put a value on time with your family or whatever it is you do outside work. That is where the motive becomes exactly what the person feels they have to do to improve (or maintain) their quality of life. Let's not forget, the consequences for working off the clock (as witnessed in this thread) clearly do not outweigh the positives of getting off work early to these individuals. You can judge them all you want, I'd rather try and understand exactly how big their gain is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="atatbl, post: 565915, member: 12890"] Within reason, no violation of any contract between two parties is "OK". In fact, theory would dictate that it wouldn't even be OK unless and exception was spelled out. That's all fine and dandy. Then it gets applied, through actions, in real life. I would hope that we all understand that we don't live in a perfect world. Especially today; the world is "changing" quicker than it used to. Most argue that it's changing quicker than we can evolve to meet in a healthy manner. Not only physically, but more importantly society as a whole. The right thing to do is not always clear anymore (and I am not necessarily talking about working off the clock here). Something as simple as whether or not to work off the clock affects more than just that action. In this case, people do it for work/life quality reasons. That's the only real point I have heard people argue vehemently on here. It's hard to put a value on time with your family or whatever it is you do outside work. That is where the motive becomes exactly what the person feels they have to do to improve (or maintain) their quality of life. Let's not forget, the consequences for working off the clock (as witnessed in this thread) clearly do not outweigh the positives of getting off work early to these individuals. You can judge them all you want, I'd rather try and understand exactly how big their gain is. [/QUOTE]
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