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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 3263941" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>Well, notice I did say AND or on the double time OT and extending the pension and HW payments to all hours worked?</p><p>Add that in, and you make it MUCH more expensive for UPS to keep 50% or more of a center out 10.5 or 11 hours every day.</p><p>Which might have the effect of actually incentivizing the company to add routes and drivers and drop the paid day to more like</p><p>8.5-9. In a 70 car center that might require adding around 7 routes, which means adding that many drivers to staff on average,</p><p>which would increase costs probably around 10%. More if you add in the package car fuel and mileage costs. </p><p>According to the UPS 2014 SEC fillings, UPS had Compensation and benefits costs of $32.045B and total net revenue (profit) of $3.021B, less </p><p>that 10% of the compensation and benefits costs, so you increase those by 10% keeping everything the same, you wipe out the profits.</p><p></p><p>Look, I get that this is all very speculative. And it may be total BS. But it is at least based on my experience helping to run a center and plan</p><p>staffing and evaluating staffing needs and staffing costs in running a center. Your objection, while possibly valid, is nevertheless based on your emotion and your total ignorance of actually staffing and running a center. </p><p></p><p>You sir are clearly not only drinking the Kool-Aid, your are guzzling it. You just happen to prefer the IBT Kool-aid to the UPS kind, which is fine, that is your choice. But it is just as ignorant.</p><p></p><p>Having said all that, since 2014 UPS has managed to improve the the Compensation costs as a total percentage of costs (thanks automation) and does stand to gain from the lowered tax rates in the recently passed tax overhaul. So this would be the year to go for the jugular on Pension payments for all hours worked and double time - Likely you won't get both, but anything you can get to help the pensions would be probably be worth fighting for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 3263941, member: 14596"] Well, notice I did say AND or on the double time OT and extending the pension and HW payments to all hours worked? Add that in, and you make it MUCH more expensive for UPS to keep 50% or more of a center out 10.5 or 11 hours every day. Which might have the effect of actually incentivizing the company to add routes and drivers and drop the paid day to more like 8.5-9. In a 70 car center that might require adding around 7 routes, which means adding that many drivers to staff on average, which would increase costs probably around 10%. More if you add in the package car fuel and mileage costs. According to the UPS 2014 SEC fillings, UPS had Compensation and benefits costs of $32.045B and total net revenue (profit) of $3.021B, less that 10% of the compensation and benefits costs, so you increase those by 10% keeping everything the same, you wipe out the profits. Look, I get that this is all very speculative. And it may be total BS. But it is at least based on my experience helping to run a center and plan staffing and evaluating staffing needs and staffing costs in running a center. Your objection, while possibly valid, is nevertheless based on your emotion and your total ignorance of actually staffing and running a center. You sir are clearly not only drinking the Kool-Aid, your are guzzling it. You just happen to prefer the IBT Kool-aid to the UPS kind, which is fine, that is your choice. But it is just as ignorant. Having said all that, since 2014 UPS has managed to improve the the Compensation costs as a total percentage of costs (thanks automation) and does stand to gain from the lowered tax rates in the recently passed tax overhaul. So this would be the year to go for the jugular on Pension payments for all hours worked and double time - Likely you won't get both, but anything you can get to help the pensions would be probably be worth fighting for. [/QUOTE]
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