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<blockquote data-quote="MistakeVoting4ThisEboard" data-source="post: 803003" data-attributes="member: 33224"><p>Originally Posted by <strong>MistakeVoting4ThisEboard</strong> the break down of his or her post</p><p></p><p>They promised everything and anything to us and took advantage of the fact that our economy was headed on a down fall. <strong><span style="color: blue">wrong economy fell Jan 2009 was on a major up swing end of 2009 election was NOV , all this board did was tell the members the truth.</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">You are wrong again, the economy was on a down fall starting July, Aug of 2007 and there was sign of up swing till about July 2009. However I have no clue what point you are trying to make with your repost. Again a pointless remark.</span></p><p> </p><p>But they hide and even pull in other members for example Liam R, and Anthony C, I don't remember seeing there names on the ballet. I understand they can pull in whoever they want, but I'd like to know who is paying for there salaries. Is that the reason they cut there salaries so they can pull in there friends and pay them with our union money.<strong><span style="color: blue">Again a campaign promise , part time members never saw there BA , most part timers did not even know who there BA was so they added Liam R and Anthony C , now yes Liam is there friend but Anthony C was one of the biggest Row A supporters out there he never supported Row B. They cut there salariers from 167,000 to 115,000 , I don't know what they pay Liam but I know Anthony makes 90,000 he told us that at a building meeting.</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">So what your saying is the Eboard took in Liam and Anthony C for the part-timers, that don't make sense Would love to know what we are paying Liam for, hope its not to save him from being fired, being you say he is there friend. I will have to look into that one.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">You say Anthony C was one of the biggest Row A supports, now are you commenting on his size? But lets say your not, why would the Eboard ask a BIG Row A supporter to join them, than that makes the eboard a bunch hypocrites and you one also. This shows me our eboard has no experience and no knowledge of how to run this union and protect its members as they promised to do.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">Now you say he told you at a building meeting he makes 90,000.00 a year. Why so much. Now I know his reason why he's on your side. Hes off the truck, hes making more money, hes off all the time, he does nothing all day long, he can eat 5 times a day instead of </span></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">just 1 lunch break, he is out of the cold, heat , rain, snow and ice. Humm, It looks to me he jump ship for the perks and does not have the members best interest in mind another bad decision by the eboard</span><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">.</span> </span> </p><p></p><p>Fom my experience with talking to the members in my building and center, Members are being disciplined on almost anything management can find, This never happened with our old eBoard, and all these BA's can do is say ok, "well the contract says" "the contract this, the contract that. Then tells the driver with there shop steward there just take the warning letter or says, do you really want to take this to arbitration, you could be out of work for months, just take the suspension. Instead of standing up for there members and fighting tooth and nail like our old board did.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue"> <strong>Like the old board did??? again more members were fired under Tony D in 2009 then 2010 not that it was his fault they are using this GPS , over 300 members were fired by UPS before this board got in , and yes it is because of the contract that allows UPS to do this GPS has only been in our local a couple of years and now UPS is using it full force , because it has weak language , when they tell a member your fired or take a suspension and that arbitration is in 9 months yes you will get your job back but not sure about back pay what do you think the member says. How about members stop cutting corners , stop take 2 lunch's , stop flagging stops. But then again your only a 7 year member.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">Now this is where your head is stuck up your </span></span><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">, You say more fired in 2009 then 2010 because of GPS. Really, do have any proof, as to my knowledge GPS was not introduced to all parts of the local until mid 2009. You say there's no language, but there is </span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">language that UPS cannot discipline a member sole on information gathered by technology which would included diad info, Telematics and of course GPS. and you need to be observed by at least 2 members of management, If members are being fired because of GPS its because our Eboard cant even read the contract correctly.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange">Your commit to members sounds a lot like my managers commits, "stop taking 2 lunches, stop flagging stops". What your saying if I flag a stop and get caught, I should be fired, or if I extend my lunch I should be fire without repensetation. I wonder if you aren't really</span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange">management or really close to them. Wow your the Eboards true colors are coming out.</span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"></span></p><p>You say you give this eboard credit for raising our medical, especially for the retired members. You just gave every retired member a kick in the A@s who built this union. ( and you talk about give backs) And now your doing it to all the active members. All this eboard had to do is stand up the the company and demand them to put funds in the medical. Big Brown is making record profits off the sweat on our backs and you just give in without a fight, just pass the blame again.<span style="color: blue"><strong>Clueless , our old board destroyed our medical was was going to wait untill they got re-elected to tell us the same thing they did with our pension they knew for months that our pension was in bad shape and waited untill they were re-elected. now he's were your really make an @ss of yourself </strong><span style="color: black">All this eboard had to do is stand up the the company and demand them to put funds in the medical.</span> <strong>OR WHAT?? money goes into the medical though the contract the contract that our old board said was a fair one that got settled 6 months early , thats were we could have forced UPS to put more money but they didn't but again your only here 7 years you cant know it all. and yes BIG BROWN is making record profits thats why we need Hoffa out and Sandy in as President . Sandy is running agaisn't Hoffa SHE HAS NO SLATE EVER ONE ELSE ON HOFFA's SLATE WILL BE IN OFFICE so its not this so called TDU power house going in there.</strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">Now BIG BROWN IS MAKING RECORD PROFITS - and you gave in so easily to UPS and raised the copay's and medical and the retirees plans. You went do without a fight, Tim said they were negotiation a deal for the medical in his union meeting . If you say your negotiation a deal you have them put money into it. But no the weak union had the members put the money in. Tim should have said there nothing we can do at that meeting, </span></span></p><p><span style="color: darkorange"><span style="color: darkgreen">but he didn't. Someone is lying. </span></span></p><p> </p><p>They lied to us once and we wont get fooled again. Perhaps TDU is behind this and pulling Tim's strings<strong>.<span style="color: blue">still don't know were they lied but TDU help Ron Carey get in office so if they are behind Sandy thats great. Tell me what wrong with TDU anyway?? why because they wanted the mob out? they wanted members to know what there officials were getting paid? What they tell us the truth. Years and years 804 told us TDU was bad but never said why.... Now I know it because they were afraid of the truth getting out and it did and there gone... Had enough may like the way you write , but thats like giving a baby a shine pennie... ooo pretty ,, You are nothing more then a row c backer </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue"></span></strong></p><p><span style="color: darkgreen">Now TDU, you say they are backing Sandy and that's great. Whats great about that maroon, she wants to unionize every illegal immigrants There are the 6 to 10 million illegal immigrant in this country, If she gets her way, every American in this country is will be out of a job.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MistakeVoting4ThisEboard, post: 803003, member: 33224"] Originally Posted by [B]MistakeVoting4ThisEboard[/B] the break down of his or her post They promised everything and anything to us and took advantage of the fact that our economy was headed on a down fall. [B][COLOR=blue]wrong economy fell Jan 2009 was on a major up swing end of 2009 election was NOV , all this board did was tell the members the truth.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=darkgreen]You are wrong again, the economy was on a down fall starting July, Aug of 2007 and there was sign of up swing till about July 2009. However I have no clue what point you are trying to make with your repost. Again a pointless remark.[/COLOR] But they hide and even pull in other members for example Liam R, and Anthony C, I don't remember seeing there names on the ballet. I understand they can pull in whoever they want, but I'd like to know who is paying for there salaries. Is that the reason they cut there salaries so they can pull in there friends and pay them with our union money.[B][COLOR=blue]Again a campaign promise , part time members never saw there BA , most part timers did not even know who there BA was so they added Liam R and Anthony C , now yes Liam is there friend but Anthony C was one of the biggest Row A supporters out there he never supported Row B. They cut there salariers from 167,000 to 115,000 , I don't know what they pay Liam but I know Anthony makes 90,000 he told us that at a building meeting.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=darkgreen]So what your saying is the Eboard took in Liam and Anthony C for the part-timers, that don't make sense Would love to know what we are paying Liam for, hope its not to save him from being fired, being you say he is there friend. I will have to look into that one. You say Anthony C was one of the biggest Row A supports, now are you commenting on his size? But lets say your not, why would the Eboard ask a BIG Row A supporter to join them, than that makes the eboard a bunch hypocrites and you one also. This shows me our eboard has no experience and no knowledge of how to run this union and protect its members as they promised to do. Now you say he told you at a building meeting he makes 90,000.00 a year. Why so much. Now I know his reason why he's on your side. Hes off the truck, hes making more money, hes off all the time, he does nothing all day long, he can eat 5 times a day instead of just 1 lunch break, he is out of the cold, heat , rain, snow and ice. Humm, It looks to me he jump ship for the perks and does not have the members best interest in mind another bad decision by the eboard[/COLOR][COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=darkgreen].[/COLOR] [/COLOR] Fom my experience with talking to the members in my building and center, Members are being disciplined on almost anything management can find, This never happened with our old eBoard, and all these BA's can do is say ok, "well the contract says" "the contract this, the contract that. Then tells the driver with there shop steward there just take the warning letter or says, do you really want to take this to arbitration, you could be out of work for months, just take the suspension. Instead of standing up for there members and fighting tooth and nail like our old board did. [COLOR=blue] [B]Like the old board did??? again more members were fired under Tony D in 2009 then 2010 not that it was his fault they are using this GPS , over 300 members were fired by UPS before this board got in , and yes it is because of the contract that allows UPS to do this GPS has only been in our local a couple of years and now UPS is using it full force , because it has weak language , when they tell a member your fired or take a suspension and that arbitration is in 9 months yes you will get your job back but not sure about back pay what do you think the member says. How about members stop cutting corners , stop take 2 lunch's , stop flagging stops. But then again your only a 7 year member.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange] [COLOR=darkgreen]Now this is where your head is stuck up your [/COLOR][/COLOR]:censored:[COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=darkgreen], You say more fired in 2009 then 2010 because of GPS. Really, do have any proof, as to my knowledge GPS was not introduced to all parts of the local until mid 2009. You say there's no language, but there is [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=darkgreen]language that UPS cannot discipline a member sole on information gathered by technology which would included diad info, Telematics and of course GPS. and you need to be observed by at least 2 members of management, If members are being fired because of GPS its because our Eboard cant even read the contract correctly.[/COLOR] Your commit to members sounds a lot like my managers commits, "stop taking 2 lunches, stop flagging stops". What your saying if I flag a stop and get caught, I should be fired, or if I extend my lunch I should be fire without repensetation. I wonder if you aren't really management or really close to them. Wow your the Eboards true colors are coming out. [/COLOR] You say you give this eboard credit for raising our medical, especially for the retired members. You just gave every retired member a kick in the A@s who built this union. ( and you talk about give backs) And now your doing it to all the active members. All this eboard had to do is stand up the the company and demand them to put funds in the medical. Big Brown is making record profits off the sweat on our backs and you just give in without a fight, just pass the blame again.[COLOR=blue][B]Clueless , our old board destroyed our medical was was going to wait untill they got re-elected to tell us the same thing they did with our pension they knew for months that our pension was in bad shape and waited untill they were re-elected. now he's were your really make an @ss of yourself [/B][COLOR=black]All this eboard had to do is stand up the the company and demand them to put funds in the medical.[/COLOR] [B]OR WHAT?? money goes into the medical though the contract the contract that our old board said was a fair one that got settled 6 months early , thats were we could have forced UPS to put more money but they didn't but again your only here 7 years you cant know it all. and yes BIG BROWN is making record profits thats why we need Hoffa out and Sandy in as President . Sandy is running agaisn't Hoffa SHE HAS NO SLATE EVER ONE ELSE ON HOFFA's SLATE WILL BE IN OFFICE so its not this so called TDU power house going in there.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=darkgreen]Now BIG BROWN IS MAKING RECORD PROFITS - and you gave in so easily to UPS and raised the copay's and medical and the retirees plans. You went do without a fight, Tim said they were negotiation a deal for the medical in his union meeting . If you say your negotiation a deal you have them put money into it. But no the weak union had the members put the money in. Tim should have said there nothing we can do at that meeting, [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=darkgreen]but he didn't. Someone is lying. [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange] [/COLOR] They lied to us once and we wont get fooled again. Perhaps TDU is behind this and pulling Tim's strings[B].[COLOR=blue]still don't know were they lied but TDU help Ron Carey get in office so if they are behind Sandy thats great. Tell me what wrong with TDU anyway?? why because they wanted the mob out? they wanted members to know what there officials were getting paid? What they tell us the truth. Years and years 804 told us TDU was bad but never said why.... Now I know it because they were afraid of the truth getting out and it did and there gone... Had enough may like the way you write , but thats like giving a baby a shine pennie... ooo pretty ,, You are nothing more then a row c backer [/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=darkgreen]Now TDU, you say they are backing Sandy and that's great. Whats great about that maroon, she wants to unionize every illegal immigrants There are the 6 to 10 million illegal immigrant in this country, If she gets her way, every American in this country is will be out of a job.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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