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<blockquote data-quote="AcesUp804" data-source="post: 805237" data-attributes="member: 7626"><p><strong>1Take on sups working</strong>- you are wrong, they ARE taking on sups working, whereas the old board IGNORED it. </p><p><span style="color: blue">Were not talking about our old board, it's our current board that is the issue. They are doing NOTHING........</span></p><p>Are sups still working, yes. But they know they have to be more sneaky these days-<strong>B</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">Sneaky, is UPS playing Peek a Boo with the E Board ???? Dont insult Local 804 members.</span></p><p><strong>2 Tough fair contract enforcement</strong>- granted they are defending a weak contract, like aces has said, these guys don't horsetrade the members. Right there, that's integrity. <strong>A+</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">If they were defending a weak contract, like Aces said, I proved him wrong already, dont your read the prior posts. You are not making sense.</span> <span style="color: blue">Every member Job was safe, until this board took over, Now were getting walked out of the building on every little mistake</span> <span style="color: blue">we make, <span style="color: red">So the 300 members on the docket that were fired when Row B got in were all safe???</span>?</span></p><p><strong>3 Protect Our Benefits</strong> - they SAVED our beneifts. The old board ran it into the ground and was planning on implementing an even WORSE plan with UPS if they won re-election . On day 1 , the Fund would have been empty on June 1, 2011. The new board extended that date until the next contract. <strong>A+</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">Total nonsence, But lets just say there cant be any worse plan than what our current E Board agreed with UPS. </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">They raised the Medical for members, and Retirees monthly payments, and after adding insult to injury, that include a 10% increase every year starting 2012.</span><span style="color: red">Again why don't you ask an old board member what there plan was to fix the medical after they got re-elected , oops they didn't but I KNOW WHAT IT WAS IT WAS WORSE SO ASK THEM AND POST WHAT THEY SAY</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span><strong>4 Fight Production Harassment</strong>- They are not accepting discipline for production. They armed the drivers with the OJS books and have held seminars on how to fight production harasment for pters and fters. <strong>B</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">It is up to our E Board to fight production harasment for both pters and fters, An educated member is great but without backup by our E board, what good is it.</span> <span style="color: blue">Harassment in all forms has risen and nothing is being done. </span><span style="color: red">Because of the way the BA's and stewards are taking good notes now , not like before UPS isn't going foward with any of those cases.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span><strong>5 Round-the-clock Representation</strong>- the phone system still sucks but they ARE at buildings 24/7. Ask the PTers at night and early morning. They are walking the building, DOING THERE JOBS! <strong>A-</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">LOL, you ask the pters at night, they'll tell you "where are they"...</span><span style="color: red">We now have and answering service 24/7 and more reps.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span><strong>6 Cut Excessive Officer Salaries</strong>- they each cut like $35K off their yearly salary. Yes they hired Liam R and Anthony C to SERVE and REPRESENT the members. It is $ well spent on representation (see promise #5) <strong>A+</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">So they cut their salaries 35K and hire two useless guys and spend 90K on Anthony C and probably another 90K on Liam - thats 180K wasted. Anthony C takes disapline, ask anyone from Foster, <span style="color: red">Yes ask them guys are stealing time and the company wants to walk them because they were followed but I know do like Tony D did put it on the docket , have them out of work for 8 months and them lose there jobs at Arbrition , Tony was great at that.</span>I get calls all the time, and Liam gets a free ride because he helped Tim get elected. Not to mention UPS wants to fire him, but his safe with Tim for now. Why doesn't Tim save every ones job and make them part of the E board so we don't get fired.</span></p><p><strong>7 Fight for More Full-Time Jobs</strong>- right now they are trying to fight to hold those FT clerk jobs. On 22.3 jobs, not much. <strong>C</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">Not much because they don't know what to do.<span style="color: red">Fighting for 22.3 jobs that were not replaced our old board said we had to many , no fight , hall says locals should fight for those jobs great job our old board was doin</span></span><span style="color: red">g</span></p><p><strong>8 Keep Members Informed</strong>- loved the 2 newsletters, was expecting more from these guys on that. Yes, there have been several education meetings, but sometimes you find out after the fact. They did tell us the truth on the Health and Welfare Funds so that brings them up to a <strong>B</strong></p><p><span style="color: blue">I hope you loved the newsletters, I have a few extra frames you can hang them in. The Education meeting are a joke, as i am told by the members who attend, I will make sure I attend the next one for a good laugh.</span><span style="color: red">Laugh all you want they are doing what they said like it or not</span></p><p><strong>9 Launch 804 University</strong>- i know of a couple in 2010 and they just had one recently <strong>B</strong> </p><p><span style="color: blue">I know a few people who attended, no big deal.</span><span style="color: red">Again they are doing what they said like it or not.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span><strong>10 Honor the Legacy of Ron Carey</strong>- <strong>A</strong> </p><p><span style="color: blue">I'll give you the A on this one. </span><span style="color: red">No I think they could do more , dont kiss up <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>This new slate is in only 1 year 2 more to go already doing more then the old board did in 15 years, still wait for you a answer this?</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>This is what Tony D , Angelo and John supported.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>1 <span style="color: blue">saying this was a fair contract.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: blue"></span>2 <span style="color: blue">willing to give up 25 and out.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: blue"></span>3 willing to give up coffee and give UPS back 10 cents</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>4 sat back and watched our pension and medical get destroyed and never told us.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>5 backing Hoffa and giving him money for his slate.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>6 <span style="color: blue">voted yes to raise our union dues at an Delegate Convention and did not tell our membership.</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong><span style="color: blue"></span>7 take 3 years to make book.</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>8 part timers waiting 18 for medical for there family</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>9 losing language in our supplemental to protect air drivers</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>10 <span style="color: blue">clerks only getting 4 1/2 hours</span></strong></span></span><span style="color: blue"> <strong>on layoff because of weak language</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><em>MEMBERS OF LOCAL 804 THEY HAVE LEARNED THERE LESSON LETS SEND THEM BACK LOL</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong>DON'T BE FOOLED <span style="color: red">VOTE ROW B 804 MEMBERS</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: black"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AcesUp804, post: 805237, member: 7626"] [B]1Take on sups working[/B]- you are wrong, they ARE taking on sups working, whereas the old board IGNORED it. [COLOR=blue]Were not talking about our old board, it's our current board that is the issue. They are doing NOTHING........[/COLOR] Are sups still working, yes. But they know they have to be more sneaky these days-[B]B[/B] [COLOR=blue]Sneaky, is UPS playing Peek a Boo with the E Board ???? Dont insult Local 804 members.[/COLOR] [B]2 Tough fair contract enforcement[/B]- granted they are defending a weak contract, like aces has said, these guys don't horsetrade the members. Right there, that's integrity. [B]A+[/B] [COLOR=blue]If they were defending a weak contract, like Aces said, I proved him wrong already, dont your read the prior posts. You are not making sense.[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]Every member Job was safe, until this board took over, Now were getting walked out of the building on every little mistake[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]we make, [COLOR=red]So the 300 members on the docket that were fired when Row B got in were all safe???[/COLOR]?[/COLOR] [B]3 Protect Our Benefits[/B] - they SAVED our beneifts. The old board ran it into the ground and was planning on implementing an even WORSE plan with UPS if they won re-election . On day 1 , the Fund would have been empty on June 1, 2011. The new board extended that date until the next contract. [B]A+[/B] [COLOR=blue]Total nonsence, But lets just say there cant be any worse plan than what our current E Board agreed with UPS. They raised the Medical for members, and Retirees monthly payments, and after adding insult to injury, that include a 10% increase every year starting 2012.[/COLOR][COLOR=red]Again why don't you ask an old board member what there plan was to fix the medical after they got re-elected , oops they didn't but I KNOW WHAT IT WAS IT WAS WORSE SO ASK THEM AND POST WHAT THEY SAY [/COLOR][B]4 Fight Production Harassment[/B]- They are not accepting discipline for production. They armed the drivers with the OJS books and have held seminars on how to fight production harasment for pters and fters. [B]B[/B] [COLOR=blue]It is up to our E Board to fight production harasment for both pters and fters, An educated member is great but without backup by our E board, what good is it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]Harassment in all forms has risen and nothing is being done. [/COLOR][COLOR=red]Because of the way the BA's and stewards are taking good notes now , not like before UPS isn't going foward with any of those cases. [/COLOR][B]5 Round-the-clock Representation[/B]- the phone system still sucks but they ARE at buildings 24/7. Ask the PTers at night and early morning. They are walking the building, DOING THERE JOBS! [B]A-[/B] [COLOR=blue]LOL, you ask the pters at night, they'll tell you "where are they"...[/COLOR][COLOR=red]We now have and answering service 24/7 and more reps. [/COLOR][B]6 Cut Excessive Officer Salaries[/B]- they each cut like $35K off their yearly salary. Yes they hired Liam R and Anthony C to SERVE and REPRESENT the members. It is $ well spent on representation (see promise #5) [B]A+[/B] [COLOR=blue]So they cut their salaries 35K and hire two useless guys and spend 90K on Anthony C and probably another 90K on Liam - thats 180K wasted. Anthony C takes disapline, ask anyone from Foster, [COLOR=red]Yes ask them guys are stealing time and the company wants to walk them because they were followed but I know do like Tony D did put it on the docket , have them out of work for 8 months and them lose there jobs at Arbrition , Tony was great at that.[/COLOR]I get calls all the time, and Liam gets a free ride because he helped Tim get elected. Not to mention UPS wants to fire him, but his safe with Tim for now. Why doesn't Tim save every ones job and make them part of the E board so we don't get fired.[/COLOR] [B]7 Fight for More Full-Time Jobs[/B]- right now they are trying to fight to hold those FT clerk jobs. On 22.3 jobs, not much. [B]C[/B] [COLOR=blue]Not much because they don't know what to do.[COLOR=red]Fighting for 22.3 jobs that were not replaced our old board said we had to many , no fight , hall says locals should fight for those jobs great job our old board was doin[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=red]g[/COLOR] [B]8 Keep Members Informed[/B]- loved the 2 newsletters, was expecting more from these guys on that. Yes, there have been several education meetings, but sometimes you find out after the fact. They did tell us the truth on the Health and Welfare Funds so that brings them up to a [B]B[/B] [COLOR=blue]I hope you loved the newsletters, I have a few extra frames you can hang them in. The Education meeting are a joke, as i am told by the members who attend, I will make sure I attend the next one for a good laugh.[/COLOR][COLOR=red]Laugh all you want they are doing what they said like it or not[/COLOR] [B]9 Launch 804 University[/B]- i know of a couple in 2010 and they just had one recently [B]B[/B] [COLOR=blue]I know a few people who attended, no big deal.[/COLOR][COLOR=red]Again they are doing what they said like it or not. [/COLOR][B]10 Honor the Legacy of Ron Carey[/B]- [B]A[/B] [COLOR=blue]I'll give you the A on this one. [/COLOR][COLOR=red]No I think they could do more , dont kiss up :)[/COLOR] [COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][B]This new slate is in only 1 year 2 more to go already doing more then the old board did in 15 years, still wait for you a answer this?[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][B]This is what Tony D , Angelo and John supported.[/B][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][B]1 [COLOR=blue]saying this was a fair contract. [/COLOR]2 [COLOR=blue]willing to give up 25 and out. [/COLOR]3 willing to give up coffee and give UPS back 10 cents 4 sat back and watched our pension and medical get destroyed and never told us. 5 backing Hoffa and giving him money for his slate. 6 [COLOR=blue]voted yes to raise our union dues at an Delegate Convention and did not tell our membership. [/COLOR]7 take 3 years to make book. 8 part timers waiting 18 for medical for there family 9 losing language in our supplemental to protect air drivers 10 [COLOR=blue]clerks only getting 4 1/2 hours[/COLOR][/B][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] [B]on layoff because of weak language[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][I]MEMBERS OF LOCAL 804 THEY HAVE LEARNED THERE LESSON LETS SEND THEM BACK LOL[/I][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][B]DON'T BE FOOLED [COLOR=red]VOTE ROW B 804 MEMBERS[/COLOR] [/B] [/COLOR][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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