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Message: <blockquote data-quote="just the facts" data-source="post: 844041" data-attributes="member: 35262">I agree that we the members of Local 804 were and still are awaiting the second coming of a great leader for our local and on the national level. Lets face the facts Tim S is not him and I have no comment on Sandy P at this time. Tim appears to be a nice guy but the second coming of a legend hes not. The press that our local has received goes over well when it comes to lockeroom talk or over a glass of wine or a martini(one olive thx)at a dinner party but what has been acomplished since this campaign started. The damage inflicted to our local has been significant. More members are falling victim to poor decisions that our elected leaders are making.  On this thread there are several different groups that have cited their feelings and pledged their allegiances as well but; we can all admit that what Dave O did was not militant. It was just plain stupid!! Whether its poor judgement, lack of discipline(since you said he was being militant)leadership flaws or whatever. Now there are 2 stewards out of work and an undisclosed amount of members whose jobs are in the balance. It has been said that there is a possibility that one if not both stewards are working in the union hall. Question who is paying their salary and where does it say in our conract agreement with UPS or our Teamster by-laws that if you are fired in the line of duty(following instructions by an elected official)that a job is promised to you? Im not a shop steward but a stand up union guy so does that mean I can work in the hall too?   In order for a boxer to be booked for a fight he or she must go through formal physical and mental training. Even with all the training there is only a chance for one person to walk out of the ring as the winner. The membership at large are not prepared to weather the self-inflicted wounds that the executive board is responsible for.  There has been numerous references about present and former board members some positive mostly negative. Just like any other oganization our current board will have to answer for this whether its at the next general meeting or the next general election.</blockquote>

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