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<blockquote data-quote="EyesLookingIn" data-source="post: 905445" data-attributes="member: 29664"><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes]Yes your bills got paid because they used money from the reserve that was built up when Ron Carey was here. 2 contracts came and went and Tony D and Angelo failed to get enough money for our fund from UPS to stop the bleeding that was going on for 10 years. Thats whats happens when you kiss Hoffa @ss all those years. The last 2 contracts were nothing more then give backs. Members in 43rd St said Tony sounded like a clown.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span>[eyes]The point of posting this was that Tony D told his supporters that Fred G was the best choice. Tony though that his supporters would listen to him because he thinks they believe what he says, They did not, Fred only got 433 out of 884 of Tony's supporters.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">[mistake]Members weren't mailed flyers, harrassed for email address to vote for Fred, I didnt even see anyone campaigne for Fred - actually the votes that Fred got may have even been for sandy until 433 members were informed before the election. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes]Of course because he came in a couple of days before the ballots went out for a hit and run members didn't know the truth about him some believed Tony. The point is that if Tony D said to vote for Fred his 800 supporters should have voted for Fred. Tim S got his supporters to vote for Sandy plus 400 more. Tony D's 400.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #ff0000">[mistake]Again you go on with just same old none sense, I could say so much of the same about Sandy, how she bankrupted her own local and so on, how she membership decreased and so on. None of the candidates may have been right, but our Board should have kept an open mind and introduced what others had to offer, and to not at least, inform members about other positions that could have been changed under Hoffa to me was a wasted vote. Like I said, I got a chance to see the other candidate, and was able to make an inform decision. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes] Open mind? Hoffa and Fred are the same. Tim S stood up and knew that the members of Local 804 would get the best contract with Sandy. He stood with the membership , Hoffa has lost 804 in every election since he is in office. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span>[eyes] talk all you want , spin it as you wish , as long as Tony D is running as President he can't win ........ Couldn't even win as steward in his own building. The members don't believe that Tony D will have there best interest in mind , only to get back in the hall wearing $2,000 suits and making $167,000 a year.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">[mistake]Talk all you want about, All that matters is that this incompetent E Board wont win the next election just by pointing fingers, it will be by there proformance which they have not done. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes] if you keep saying it in your head you will believe it.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p>[eyes]Tony D had a chance to be a leader when he got back to Foster but he only cared about himself , asked all the stewards in that building to step down (none did) didn't go to any arbitrations to help win back the members jobs that got fired when he was the BA. (are you kidding me) But he did bump a guy that was doing a morning shuttle for over 15 years that he was doing to help his family by getting home earlier. </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">[mistake]I know stewards there and that is not true, no one was asked to step down. As as far bumping goes, Im sure you didnt give up your summer vacation week to a bottom guy who wanted to spend time with his kids during the summer break. It's called senority RANK AND FILE</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes] I know the feeder guys from Foster and they said that Phil C , Jack D , Al C , Dave M , Frank friend were asked to step down. I can only speak for myself but if I was Tony and wanted to help the drivers in Foster I would not take a run that started at 6am when I could not see the drivers. But your right seniority rules</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span>[eyes] He has done nothing to show that he is a leader , he gets up at meetings and says "please don't upset UPS" Tells Tim S that he's stealing the members money by making fund cuts, and Tony was a trustee on the fund , he saids"no bullsh/t there was no money in the fund when I left" So why was it in arbitration? Tony why did the funds lawyer say you were wrong? Why did Bill B sit there and not say a word? He knows she was telling the truth. Tony D was laughed at after that meeting. </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">[eyes]The different between you and I is that I never said that our whole E board was great , they have lots to learn but half of the guys on Tony's slate are a joke. You are just one sided since day one here one sided. Tony now wants members to think he can do a better job NOW, protect the members NOW , speak up for the members NOW, NOW its to late, but the members will vote next year and we will see. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"> Peace and god bless, </span></p><p> , ,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EyesLookingIn, post: 905445, member: 29664"] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][eyes]Yes your bills got paid because they used money from the reserve that was built up when Ron Carey was here. 2 contracts came and went and Tony D and Angelo failed to get enough money for our fund from UPS to stop the bleeding that was going on for 10 years. Thats whats happens when you kiss Hoffa @ss all those years. The last 2 contracts were nothing more then give backs. Members in 43rd St said Tony sounded like a clown. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/COLOR][eyes]The point of posting this was that Tony D told his supporters that Fred G was the best choice. Tony though that his supporters would listen to him because he thinks they believe what he says, They did not, Fred only got 433 out of 884 of Tony's supporters. [COLOR=#ff0000][mistake]Members weren't mailed flyers, harrassed for email address to vote for Fred, I didnt even see anyone campaigne for Fred - actually the votes that Fred got may have even been for sandy until 433 members were informed before the election. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][eyes]Of course because he came in a couple of days before the ballots went out for a hit and run members didn't know the truth about him some believed Tony. The point is that if Tony D said to vote for Fred his 800 supporters should have voted for Fred. Tim S got his supporters to vote for Sandy plus 400 more. Tony D's 400. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000][mistake]Again you go on with just same old none sense, I could say so much of the same about Sandy, how she bankrupted her own local and so on, how she membership decreased and so on. None of the candidates may have been right, but our Board should have kept an open mind and introduced what others had to offer, and to not at least, inform members about other positions that could have been changed under Hoffa to me was a wasted vote. Like I said, I got a chance to see the other candidate, and was able to make an inform decision. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][eyes] Open mind? Hoffa and Fred are the same. Tim S stood up and knew that the members of Local 804 would get the best contract with Sandy. He stood with the membership , Hoffa has lost 804 in every election since he is in office. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/COLOR][eyes] talk all you want , spin it as you wish , as long as Tony D is running as President he can't win ........ Couldn't even win as steward in his own building. The members don't believe that Tony D will have there best interest in mind , only to get back in the hall wearing $2,000 suits and making $167,000 a year. [COLOR=#ff0000][mistake]Talk all you want about, All that matters is that this incompetent E Board wont win the next election just by pointing fingers, it will be by there proformance which they have not done. [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][eyes] if you keep saying it in your head you will believe it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/COLOR] [eyes]Tony D had a chance to be a leader when he got back to Foster but he only cared about himself , asked all the stewards in that building to step down (none did) didn't go to any arbitrations to help win back the members jobs that got fired when he was the BA. (are you kidding me) But he did bump a guy that was doing a morning shuttle for over 15 years that he was doing to help his family by getting home earlier. [COLOR=#ff0000][mistake]I know stewards there and that is not true, no one was asked to step down. As as far bumping goes, Im sure you didnt give up your summer vacation week to a bottom guy who wanted to spend time with his kids during the summer break. It's called senority RANK AND FILE [/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][eyes] I know the feeder guys from Foster and they said that Phil C , Jack D , Al C , Dave M , Frank friend were asked to step down. I can only speak for myself but if I was Tony and wanted to help the drivers in Foster I would not take a run that started at 6am when I could not see the drivers. But your right seniority rules ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/COLOR][eyes] He has done nothing to show that he is a leader , he gets up at meetings and says "please don't upset UPS" Tells Tim S that he's stealing the members money by making fund cuts, and Tony was a trustee on the fund , he saids"no bullsh/t there was no money in the fund when I left" So why was it in arbitration? Tony why did the funds lawyer say you were wrong? Why did Bill B sit there and not say a word? He knows she was telling the truth. Tony D was laughed at after that meeting. [COLOR=#0000ff][eyes]The different between you and I is that I never said that our whole E board was great , they have lots to learn but half of the guys on Tony's slate are a joke. You are just one sided since day one here one sided. Tony now wants members to think he can do a better job NOW, protect the members NOW , speak up for the members NOW, NOW its to late, but the members will vote next year and we will see. Peace and god bless, [/COLOR] , , [/QUOTE]
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