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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 920234" data-attributes="member: 29553">What people like you will never understand is that the union doesnt get members fired.&nbsp; It is UPS management that does the firing usually with the help of the member doing something questionable.&nbsp; The last time I looked there still is about 6800 members in our local.&nbsp; Why do people like you throw around numbers like 500 members discharged??&nbsp; Where do you get those numbers from??&nbsp; You are aware I hope that people can be discharged and still be working, right??&nbsp; You are aware I hope, that members quit everyday in this company.&nbsp; You are aware, I hope, that members retire every year too.&nbsp; Listen, all you bring on here is baseless allegations to knock the board.&nbsp; Where were you 3, 4 , 5 , 10 yrs ago??&nbsp; Oh thats right you were in the union hall corrupting our union!!&nbsp; Its over.&nbsp; You guys had your time and you blew it.&nbsp; Ron Carey left you guys with a strong local and you guys blew it big time:&nbsp; the overpaid salaries, the matching 401ks, the weak, sell out contracts, the deal-making with management, not showing up, not caring anymore, allowing our health and welfare to practically go bankrupt, allowing our pensions to be cut, ignoring our part timers, etcThese guys might not be perfect but they are a cut above you and your guys!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 920234, member: 29553"] What people like you will never understand is that the union doesnt get members fired. It is UPS management that does the firing usually with the help of the member doing something questionable. The last time I looked there still is about 6800 members in our local. Why do people like you throw around numbers like 500 members discharged?? Where do you get those numbers from?? You are aware I hope that people can be discharged and still be working, right?? You are aware I hope, that members quit everyday in this company. You are aware, I hope, that members retire every year too. Listen, all you bring on here is baseless allegations to knock the board. Where were you 3, 4 , 5 , 10 yrs ago?? Oh thats right you were in the union hall corrupting our union!! Its over. You guys had your time and you blew it. Ron Carey left you guys with a strong local and you guys blew it big time: the overpaid salaries, the matching 401ks, the weak, sell out contracts, the deal-making with management, not showing up, not caring anymore, allowing our health and welfare to practically go bankrupt, allowing our pensions to be cut, ignoring our part timers, etc These guys might not be perfect but they are a cut above you and your guys!! [/QUOTE]

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