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<blockquote data-quote="Stallwarts" data-source="post: 150668">Tie,I get what you are saying, but all this point-counterpoint horsecrap is useless. The fact of the matter is that a technician&#039;s job at UPS is fine if you don&#039;t mind whether it includes mopping a floor, delivering a package, or mucking a stall. What so many people fail to realize is that technicians love technology.&nbsp; Most technicians are passionate about what they can do, but not necessarily about what they really do at UPS.How many drivers love stacking and unstacking boxes -- maybe some.&nbsp; If you ask them if they love the delivery field, maybe even more will say yes.&nbsp; The same thing applies to technicians. There is &quot;UPS&quot; technicians and &quot;the rest of the world of&quot; technicians.&nbsp; At UPS, like so many other management and drivers, you get stuck in the job with wages, benefits, vacations, and etc.&nbsp; Technicians from other companies have loyalties and velvet handcuffs, too.&nbsp; However, they are more willing to sell their craft to the highest bidder.UPS has some of the most mudane, unsafe, and dirty work in America, yet technicians will wring hands and stress about leaving Brown.&nbsp; Once you are gone, as I am, it is embarrassing to realize what boring and unrewarding work you did just for good benefits and days off.Technicians have a skill that companies are willing to reward.&nbsp; Instead of feeling like the redheaded step-sister to the ICS, just go somewhere else and you might rise to the ICS in a year or two.&nbsp; If you are TSG in Wyoming, you know that there is no promotion path to Tier 2 or Tier 3 technician at UPS.&nbsp; If you want Tier 2 or Tier 3, you will have to move to Mahwah (if they will have you) or get a job with a company that has such levels in your town or state.TSG is a dead-end for technology loving employees; it always has been and always will be.&nbsp; If your passion is UPS, move to management or delivery -- you will have more options and earn much more money.&nbsp; If really love technology, leave the company; there is nothing clearer to say.&nbsp; Please understand that I know you will lose vacations, etc.&nbsp; However, you will get vacations, sick-time, 401k, and the ability to have a vested retirement at most of the companies worth working for.&nbsp; If these things are more important than job satisfaction, then just do the job -- muck the stall and whistle while you work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stallwarts, post: 150668"] Tie, I get what you are saying, but all this point-counterpoint horsecrap is useless. The fact of the matter is that a technician's job at UPS is fine if you don't mind whether it includes mopping a floor, delivering a package, or mucking a stall. What so many people fail to realize is that technicians love technology. Most technicians are passionate about what they can do, but not necessarily about what they really do at UPS. How many drivers love stacking and unstacking boxes -- maybe some. If you ask them if they love the delivery field, maybe even more will say yes. The same thing applies to technicians. There is "UPS" technicians and "the rest of the world of" technicians. At UPS, like so many other management and drivers, you get stuck in the job with wages, benefits, vacations, and etc. Technicians from other companies have loyalties and velvet handcuffs, too. However, they are more willing to sell their craft to the highest bidder. UPS has some of the most mudane, unsafe, and dirty work in America, yet technicians will wring hands and stress about leaving Brown. Once you are gone, as I am, it is embarrassing to realize what boring and unrewarding work you did just for good benefits and days off. Technicians have a skill that companies are willing to reward. Instead of feeling like the redheaded step-sister to the ICS, just go somewhere else and you might rise to the ICS in a year or two. If you are TSG in Wyoming, you know that there is no promotion path to Tier 2 or Tier 3 technician at UPS. If you want Tier 2 or Tier 3, you will have to move to Mahwah (if they will have you) or get a job with a company that has such levels in your town or state. TSG is a dead-end for technology loving employees; it always has been and always will be. If your passion is UPS, move to management or delivery -- you will have more options and earn much more money. If really love technology, leave the company; there is nothing clearer to say. Please understand that I know you will lose vacations, etc. However, you will get vacations, sick-time, 401k, and the ability to have a vested retirement at most of the companies worth working for. If these things are more important than job satisfaction, then just do the job -- muck the stall and whistle while you work. [/QUOTE]

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