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UPS should replace the entire fleet with non union workers.
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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1141480" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>In fairness, a very much YMMV situation. I work in one of UPS's largest facilities in the country, and the wait to go into driving here is about 15 years. In the two buildings closest to mine (10 minutes & 25 minutes away) the wait is about 10 years and 5 years respectively. </p><p></p><p>That said, he has a valid point. Many of the "old timers" on here haven't searched for a job in 25 or more years, and the experiences they relay on here reflect that era. Especially in the past 20 years, companies have been aggressively eliminating FT jobs in favor of PT ones that typically pay less than half the hourly wage, do not include benefits but require the employee to work a "more than PT" workload. We're seeing this in professional jobs now, in which schools, police departments, etc. are taking advantage of the vast labor pool to hire cheap. FT jobs not requiring an education are rare, and the ones that exist typically don't pay well / do not include benefits. </p><p></p><p>One of my buddies hired into UPS in the mid-to-late 1970s as a PTer earning about $12/hour. He's always "whining" to me that his 20-year-old son won't move out, and he can't understand because when he was 18, he worked at UPS, bought a car & home, etc. Pretty stunning to think that 35 years later, UPS is paying 30% less -- nor do we work the 8-hour days that were common then, instead being chased from the building in 3 hours or so. </p><p></p><p>I cringe when I read postings from "old timers" telling the youth on here 'go get a FT job -- $8.50 is fair for a 3-hour, PT job (that has 8-hour physical & mental fatigue)' and then in their next post write """waaahhhhh, $32+/hour isn't enough for what I do, wahhhhhhhhh." Pure hypocrite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1141480, member: 43436"] In fairness, a very much YMMV situation. I work in one of UPS's largest facilities in the country, and the wait to go into driving here is about 15 years. In the two buildings closest to mine (10 minutes & 25 minutes away) the wait is about 10 years and 5 years respectively. That said, he has a valid point. Many of the "old timers" on here haven't searched for a job in 25 or more years, and the experiences they relay on here reflect that era. Especially in the past 20 years, companies have been aggressively eliminating FT jobs in favor of PT ones that typically pay less than half the hourly wage, do not include benefits but require the employee to work a "more than PT" workload. We're seeing this in professional jobs now, in which schools, police departments, etc. are taking advantage of the vast labor pool to hire cheap. FT jobs not requiring an education are rare, and the ones that exist typically don't pay well / do not include benefits. One of my buddies hired into UPS in the mid-to-late 1970s as a PTer earning about $12/hour. He's always "whining" to me that his 20-year-old son won't move out, and he can't understand because when he was 18, he worked at UPS, bought a car & home, etc. Pretty stunning to think that 35 years later, UPS is paying 30% less -- nor do we work the 8-hour days that were common then, instead being chased from the building in 3 hours or so. I cringe when I read postings from "old timers" telling the youth on here 'go get a FT job -- $8.50 is fair for a 3-hour, PT job (that has 8-hour physical & mental fatigue)' and then in their next post write """waaahhhhh, $32+/hour isn't enough for what I do, wahhhhhhhhh." Pure hypocrite. [/QUOTE]
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