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<blockquote data-quote="browniehound" data-source="post: 871336" data-attributes="member: 4653"><p>Here is the way I see it and it was already posted by another member I believe. Even though its not a criminal offense it IS still a criminal offense to be under the influence and drive any vehicle. In case you were thinking about it I would advise YOU (or anyone) to NEVER smoke before/during work or on property. I understand driving while impaired on weed is not even close to driving drunk but you still are impaired if you believe so or not. </p><p></p><p>The facts point to that it impairs your driving. However, I would argue its not nearly as dangerous as texting and driving or talking on the cell and driving. I will never advocate smoking and driving but in no way can it be compared to drinking and driving. Its a total different ballgame. People die by the hundreds daily from drunk driving in the US. I never hear about 'smoking and driving' deaths. It simply doesn't happen and its obvious to why. People who drive stoned travel at about 15 MPH below the posted speed limit, LOL. On that same road a drunk driver will travel at 15 MPH OVER the speed limit with extremely dulled reflexes. I'll ride with an experienced stoned driver any day and be and feel comfortably safe.</p><p></p><p>You need to be careful because another good point was bought up. For alcohol there is a breath test that will prove y how intoxicated you are with a scientifically based number. There is no test for weed except the eyeball test when talking about the immediate incident. If this person is forced to take a urine test he could test positive even if he only took 2 bong hits in his 33 year-old buddy's basement (while his buddy's mother was doing the dishes upstairs, lol) 2 weeks prior.</p><p></p><p>Should the driver be fired if he tests positive? Say he is under no suspicion from management or the police and the accident was totally unavoidable on his part, should testing positive for Marijuana be a his death sentence? Especially now that its decriminalized in many states?</p><p></p><p>I say no because it doesn't prove he was high while at work. It just proves he smoked sometime in the last month. What if alcohol stayed in the urine in non-measurable levels for 30 days? That's what we are talking about with marijuana now that its a civil offense.</p><p></p><p>Unless the employee appears intoxicated to management I believe he will not be subjected to drug tests. Is this correct? I believe he shouldn't be... for the record.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="browniehound, post: 871336, member: 4653"] Here is the way I see it and it was already posted by another member I believe. Even though its not a criminal offense it IS still a criminal offense to be under the influence and drive any vehicle. In case you were thinking about it I would advise YOU (or anyone) to NEVER smoke before/during work or on property. I understand driving while impaired on weed is not even close to driving drunk but you still are impaired if you believe so or not. The facts point to that it impairs your driving. However, I would argue its not nearly as dangerous as texting and driving or talking on the cell and driving. I will never advocate smoking and driving but in no way can it be compared to drinking and driving. Its a total different ballgame. People die by the hundreds daily from drunk driving in the US. I never hear about 'smoking and driving' deaths. It simply doesn't happen and its obvious to why. People who drive stoned travel at about 15 MPH below the posted speed limit, LOL. On that same road a drunk driver will travel at 15 MPH OVER the speed limit with extremely dulled reflexes. I'll ride with an experienced stoned driver any day and be and feel comfortably safe. You need to be careful because another good point was bought up. For alcohol there is a breath test that will prove y how intoxicated you are with a scientifically based number. There is no test for weed except the eyeball test when talking about the immediate incident. If this person is forced to take a urine test he could test positive even if he only took 2 bong hits in his 33 year-old buddy's basement (while his buddy's mother was doing the dishes upstairs, lol) 2 weeks prior. Should the driver be fired if he tests positive? Say he is under no suspicion from management or the police and the accident was totally unavoidable on his part, should testing positive for Marijuana be a his death sentence? Especially now that its decriminalized in many states? I say no because it doesn't prove he was high while at work. It just proves he smoked sometime in the last month. What if alcohol stayed in the urine in non-measurable levels for 30 days? That's what we are talking about with marijuana now that its a civil offense. Unless the employee appears intoxicated to management I believe he will not be subjected to drug tests. Is this correct? I believe he shouldn't be... for the record. [/QUOTE]
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