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<blockquote data-quote="BMWMC" data-source="post: 1102211" data-attributes="member: 37461"><p><strong>Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your a long holder of stocks. That I get. Given diffident time horizons returns vary greatly. Over the last 12 years stocks including dividends are negative on a nominal bases. Over 20 years they done a little better. But past performance is no guarantee of future performance. The world economies, the stock market, and investing have changed like no other time in history. This is what you fail to see. Your investing like nothing has changed and historical trends are your friend.</p><p></p><p>Not so. If you had listen to any on the vid's I posted you would have grasp it. Today markets are controlled by central banks not investor. Capitalism died with there intervention into the markets. Some have argued that if they hadn't we would have seen the collapse of the world economies. That's really the behind the curtain reality. The world economies did collapsed. The fractional banking system collapsed. Its being propped up by massive money printing, debt spending, and fictional reports of "recovery." </p><p></p><p>The reality is there to much debt, public, private, and corporate and not enough revenue or growth to pay it. The collapse of the Greek economy is an example of what the whole world faces. Sure we are the worlds reserve currency but we like the rest of the world are in a races to devalue. I want you think about the crash of 2008. All the central banks have done is paper over the crash. We went from a world in which everyone was betting on WHAT return they could make on there capital to simple a <strong><u>return OF there capital</u></strong>. Very quickly too. All the stop losses in the world won't help when all there is are sellers and no buyers.</p><p></p><p>I don't use gold to make money I own it to protect its purchasing power.</p><p></p><p>I use limit orders and stop losses too, but, as a trading mechanism so I don't have to watch them every second. My trading broker has a trailing stop loss so I can continue to ride it higher and capture any gains above a certain % reversal.</p><p></p><p>At some point (its called the ratchet effect) the central banks will have to print more and more money getting less and less economic and stock market pump-a-thon out of it. QE1 brought the stock prices up 50%, QE2 bought the market up 25% and now QE3 to infinity has only brought the market up 12%. Its the law diminished returns.</p><p></p><p>Failing to recognize the role of the central banks , there relationship to stock prices, and inflation is a much bigger gamble on your part then any trade I'll make. When they finally lose control over the currency with people losing faith in it the jig will be up and all the dividends, stop losses, and prayers by your bedside won't do any good. <span style="color: #ff0000"><u><em><strong> Listen</strong></em></u></span> to this interview. Take 4.19 minutes and listen carefully, <span style="color: #ff0000"><u><strong>VERY</strong></u></span> carefully, to the words he uses to describe what the current situation is.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]48EsmMPyvEQ[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BMWMC, post: 1102211, member: 37461"] [B]Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20[/B] Your a long holder of stocks. That I get. Given diffident time horizons returns vary greatly. Over the last 12 years stocks including dividends are negative on a nominal bases. Over 20 years they done a little better. But past performance is no guarantee of future performance. The world economies, the stock market, and investing have changed like no other time in history. This is what you fail to see. Your investing like nothing has changed and historical trends are your friend. Not so. If you had listen to any on the vid's I posted you would have grasp it. Today markets are controlled by central banks not investor. Capitalism died with there intervention into the markets. Some have argued that if they hadn't we would have seen the collapse of the world economies. That's really the behind the curtain reality. The world economies did collapsed. The fractional banking system collapsed. Its being propped up by massive money printing, debt spending, and fictional reports of "recovery." The reality is there to much debt, public, private, and corporate and not enough revenue or growth to pay it. The collapse of the Greek economy is an example of what the whole world faces. Sure we are the worlds reserve currency but we like the rest of the world are in a races to devalue. I want you think about the crash of 2008. All the central banks have done is paper over the crash. We went from a world in which everyone was betting on WHAT return they could make on there capital to simple a [B][U]return OF there capital[/U][/B]. Very quickly too. All the stop losses in the world won't help when all there is are sellers and no buyers. I don't use gold to make money I own it to protect its purchasing power. I use limit orders and stop losses too, but, as a trading mechanism so I don't have to watch them every second. My trading broker has a trailing stop loss so I can continue to ride it higher and capture any gains above a certain % reversal. At some point (its called the ratchet effect) the central banks will have to print more and more money getting less and less economic and stock market pump-a-thon out of it. QE1 brought the stock prices up 50%, QE2 bought the market up 25% and now QE3 to infinity has only brought the market up 12%. Its the law diminished returns. Failing to recognize the role of the central banks , there relationship to stock prices, and inflation is a much bigger gamble on your part then any trade I'll make. When they finally lose control over the currency with people losing faith in it the jig will be up and all the dividends, stop losses, and prayers by your bedside won't do any good. [COLOR=#ff0000][U][I][B] Listen[/B][/I][/U][/COLOR] to this interview. Take 4.19 minutes and listen carefully, [COLOR=#ff0000][U][B]VERY[/B][/U][/COLOR] carefully, to the words he uses to describe what the current situation is. [MEDIA=youtube]48EsmMPyvEQ[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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