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UPS vs. Union proposals now on the table
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<blockquote data-quote="PiedmontSteward" data-source="post: 1113236" data-attributes="member: 42270"><p>So you're calling on your brother Teamsters to <strong><em>de-certify</em></strong> the union before you've even seen any sort of tentative agreement? </p><p></p><p>A (catastrophically unsuccessful) attempt was made at this back in '05-'06 and corporate flew representatives out on private jets to talk with the "leaders" of a de-certification campaign. UPS was completely behind having a handful of hillbillies with no actual bargaining experience trying to negotiate a contract on behalf of 250,000 union members. </p><p></p><p>Also, for the record, Hall stated that we proposed additional 22.3 combo jobs throughout the life of the upcoming contract. Quite frankly, the company is already removing these jobs de-facto by simply not filling them. Stronger language regarding keeping 22.3 jobs in the local they were created in has been proposed but I've only seen the tentative stuff from back in September. </p><p></p><p>The union did NOT propose a $1.50/hr wage increase to off-set health care, IBT proposed a $1.50/hr increase to HEALTH & WELFARE. In fact, IBT proposed $1/hr wage increases across the board, a $1/hr "catch-up" raise for PT'ers, and to set starting pay at $15.00/hr.</p><p></p><p>Economic proposals with "bonuses" (these bonuses would go to H&W and pension, not in your pocket) would never be put to a ratification vote. </p><p></p><p>Get your facts straight before you go off half-cocked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PiedmontSteward, post: 1113236, member: 42270"] So you're calling on your brother Teamsters to [B][I]de-certify[/I][/B] the union before you've even seen any sort of tentative agreement? A (catastrophically unsuccessful) attempt was made at this back in '05-'06 and corporate flew representatives out on private jets to talk with the "leaders" of a de-certification campaign. UPS was completely behind having a handful of hillbillies with no actual bargaining experience trying to negotiate a contract on behalf of 250,000 union members. Also, for the record, Hall stated that we proposed additional 22.3 combo jobs throughout the life of the upcoming contract. Quite frankly, the company is already removing these jobs de-facto by simply not filling them. Stronger language regarding keeping 22.3 jobs in the local they were created in has been proposed but I've only seen the tentative stuff from back in September. The union did NOT propose a $1.50/hr wage increase to off-set health care, IBT proposed a $1.50/hr increase to HEALTH & WELFARE. In fact, IBT proposed $1/hr wage increases across the board, a $1/hr "catch-up" raise for PT'ers, and to set starting pay at $15.00/hr. Economic proposals with "bonuses" (these bonuses would go to H&W and pension, not in your pocket) would never be put to a ratification vote. Get your facts straight before you go off half-cocked. [/QUOTE]
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