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<blockquote data-quote="beentheredonethat" data-source="post: 1036987" data-attributes="member: 4886"><p>Pretzel, Hoaxster is spot on. I don't begrudge you for your hard work to get to a high level within UPS. Congratulations. I just think it's been too long since you see what goes on at the level of the driver, the on road supv, the center manager. Corporate dictates exactly what the centers are to do and how to do it. When their plan fails, they then yell at the lower level management employees. Not once do they look and realize that many times it is the plan they are given that is bad. It used to be 20+ years ago that we could bring drivers on board into management. Now, the only ones who do that, are drivers that have not gotten to full pay. When they switch they will now not get protected by a union. They will not get a Christmas bonus. Odds are the chance of becoming rich as a UPSer mgmt person is long gone. They will have to pay for their own H&W. I believe it is Southwest Airlines that has everyone from their corporate office work the front lines one day a year to know what it's like for those people. I will agree as a company UPS is still strong. However, in keeping with what Hoaxster said, there are a lot of people who are 20+ UPS Mgmt people that still are driven to do their best etc. A lot of these people are retiring. The new people we have I don't think are motivated to work hard, not due to them being Generation X or Y or whatever. It's due to how they are treated and how they are incentivized.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beentheredonethat, post: 1036987, member: 4886"] Pretzel, Hoaxster is spot on. I don't begrudge you for your hard work to get to a high level within UPS. Congratulations. I just think it's been too long since you see what goes on at the level of the driver, the on road supv, the center manager. Corporate dictates exactly what the centers are to do and how to do it. When their plan fails, they then yell at the lower level management employees. Not once do they look and realize that many times it is the plan they are given that is bad. It used to be 20+ years ago that we could bring drivers on board into management. Now, the only ones who do that, are drivers that have not gotten to full pay. When they switch they will now not get protected by a union. They will not get a Christmas bonus. Odds are the chance of becoming rich as a UPSer mgmt person is long gone. They will have to pay for their own H&W. I believe it is Southwest Airlines that has everyone from their corporate office work the front lines one day a year to know what it's like for those people. I will agree as a company UPS is still strong. However, in keeping with what Hoaxster said, there are a lot of people who are 20+ UPS Mgmt people that still are driven to do their best etc. A lot of these people are retiring. The new people we have I don't think are motivated to work hard, not due to them being Generation X or Y or whatever. It's due to how they are treated and how they are incentivized. [/QUOTE]
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