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newfie

Well-Known Member
From the beginning, everyone understood that a wall isnt an infallible solution. Id rather have our CBP have to deal with a few hundred able-bodied climbers than a few million sloths hobbling across the border.

one thing for sure , anchor momma's wont be climbing that new wall
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
"After the government built fences in San Diego, drug smugglers turned to the ocean, underground tunnels and, most commonly, the ports of entry.

all which recquire much more effort and have a much higher probability of getting caught. are you trying to make our argument for us or doing so accidentally?
 

Mutineer

Well-Known Member
Those who advocate or enable excessive immigration from ANY other nation into the U.S. are the following:

Those who have not YET suffered and/or are insulated from the negative effects, and those who profit from it.

And if you really believe that companies who hire immigrants at a lower cost (legal or otherwise) as opposed to native-born citizens actually pass the 'savings' onto the consumers as opposed to feathering their own nests, you are gullible AND wrong.
 

Mutineer

Well-Known Member
So we solved the drug problem?
There is no "drug problem." There is only a drug-addict problem. That problem will never be solved. But vigorous education, prevention, and a financial incentive for those with a documented drug/alcohol problem to be voluntarily sterilized would go a very long way.
 

Poop Head

Judge me.
There is no "drug problem." There is only a drug-addict problem. That problem will never be solved. But vigorous education, prevention, and a financial incentive for those with a documented drug/alcohol problem to be voluntarily sterilized would go a very long way.
I like what that Venezuelan guy is doing. A real visionary
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Think about it..What if come November Biden somehow backs into the White House with all the turmoil that is going on, almost a perfect storm scenario for the Democrats does anybody think that inquires about his and campaign staff connection to these socialist militants will not be investigated by the Republicans similar of what they been doing to Trump for the last 4 years. Dream On, pay back time...

Talking about major collusion from an outside source, Russia, China and every other major player in the world could be placing operatives and playing with these Liberal Fringe groups like BLM, Plan Parenthood and others to get their agenda in place. Whoever gets into office in the next 4 years will be selecting a supreme court justice and possible two, that my folks might be the most important reason for voting come November..."All Live Matters...Even the Unborn".

Of course by November if Biden wins his state of mind would declare him innocent of all wrong doing, Is he in fact what you call an "Empty Suite" being controlled by these groups and a issue driven potential vice president, or would he classified as a "trojan horse"...A old, white career politician who can be easily fooled and controlled from outside sources internally and externally.
 

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
Rope ladders don't appear out of nowhere..... especially one that length.
I'm still trying to understand who deployed the rope ladder and when.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
A wall's going up on the border
To help maintain law and order
On one side teeming masses
On the other liberal asses
Who seek its total destruction
Trying to stop its construction
But in the end they'll kiss the rump
Of our great hero Donald Trump! :)
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
A wall's going up on the border
To help maintain law and order
On one side teeming masses
On the other liberal asses
Who seek its total destruction
Trying to stop its construction
But in the end they'll kiss the rump
Of our great hero Donald Trump! :)

and when that day doth come
where the libs will have to succumb
may their kiss be placed
in the stinky place
to ultimately ensure
they taste that fine trump manure.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
The wall should be the first step.
On our side there should be a very wide trench filled with all kinds of booby traps.
It would make the fence climbers have to jump clear of the trench from the top of the wall.
Thus slowing down the attempts to climb the fence in the first place.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The wall should be the first step.
On our side there should be a very wide trench filled with all kinds of booby traps.
It would make the fence climbers have to jump clear of the trench from the top of the wall.
Thus slowing down the attempts to climb the fence in the first place.
Enforcing immigration laws is acceptable but harming desperate people would have massive protests at the wall with rioters attacking it. And lead to lawsuits and most likely tearing the wall down.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Enforcing immigration laws is acceptable but harming desperate people would have massive protests at the wall with rioters attacking it. And lead to lawsuits and most likely tearing the wall down.
You are making a bad assumption that people who climb over fences are desperate.
Because they can easily travel a 100+ miles to a spot where there are no fences.
I hear in some areas, one can ride a bus to those spots.
Given today's climate for protesting, I'd love to see them do their protests in the middle of nowhere.
Better than burning down the cities.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You are making a bad assumption that people who climb over fences are desperate.
Because they can easily travel a 100+ miles to a spot where there are no fences.
I hear in some areas, one can ride a bus to those spots.
Given today's climate for protesting, I'd love to see them do their protests in the middle of nowhere.
Better than burning down the cities.
You're still advocating harming them. Most of those people come up here looking for work. Some are definitely criminals, but not all. Put up the wall, keep them out, but you're never going to get a court to agree hurting them physically beyond self defense is acceptable.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
You're still advocating harming them. Most of those people come up here looking for work. Some are definitely criminals, but not all. Put up the wall, keep them out, but you're never going to get a court to agree hurting them physically beyond self defense is acceptable.
I don't think that he was saying harm them I do think he was saying create additional obstacles. this is something the border patrol is actually doing for instance in some places where they had a problem with them climbing the wall they've added additional concertina wire to discourage them from even attempting to climb and scale the wall. The concertina wire obviously could harm individuals if they actually try crossing
through it but the idea is that they won't try if they see the hazard that is present
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
Your making my point , There are more big time drug busts now because they can concentrate more on other area's , they found a huge drug smuggling underground tunnel in California not that long after the wall was built and the coast guard has made some huge busts in the last couple of years !!!!
You are making a bad assumption that people who climb over fences are desperate.
Because they can easily travel a 100+ miles to a spot where there are no fences.
I hear in some areas, one can ride a bus to those spots.
Given today's climate for protesting, I'd love to see them do their protests in the middle of nowhere.
Better than burning down the cities.
You are right there is a road on the Mexican side that runs along the border. You can just walk across. Too bad you are in a desert 100s of miles from food or water, A lot of skeletons out there.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I don't think that he was saying harm them I do think he was saying create additional obstacles. this is something the border patrol is actually doing for instance in some places where they had a problem with them climbing the wall they've added additional concertina wire to discourage them from even attempting to climb and scale the wall. The concertina wire obviously could harm individuals if they actually try crossing
through it but the idea is that they won't try if they see the hazard that is present
Booby traps and having to jump from the top of a very high wall to clear them? Liberals would have a field day with that.
 
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