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<blockquote data-quote="Mystakilla" data-source="post: 275562" data-attributes="member: 8337"><p>I appreciate your replies happybob and yours also damok, however when you state that you dont believe seniority is seniority because a parttimer doesnt put the time in as a fulltimer, it shouldnt have anything to do with hours worked. If a guy who has 10 years fulltime status goes on military leave for 5 years and comes back, your saying his seniority shouldnt count since he didnt put the hours in?</p><p> </p><p>I really do appreciate the information on what you stated on how it was back in the day when there never was any parttimers, first i heard that and was wondering where it originated from, however, times change, companies change, as with ups, if they dont keep up with technology and make adjustments they are going to falter.</p><p> </p><p>I was parttime for 13 years and yes only worked 4 hours a day which in turn is 20 hours per week (thus "part time"), a fulltimer works double that if not more (usually the latter), however, you can only count the 40 as an average, OT should never be counted on, point im making, during those 13 years, I and many others pay union dues, which were not "part time" union dues, so even though a fulltimer is putting in more hours worked, they are in turn paying the same union dues as everyone else.</p><p> </p><p>It is a serious issue and i really didnt think it was going to be that big of a deal to make adjustments. After reading and thinking about what you said, i WOULD be willing to agree with some type of conversion, such as 1/2 of your time. 10 years parttime would equal 5 yrs fulltime and thus making your seniority date stand at 5 yrs after your original seniority date. Although im just specualting but it would be nice to see something done about this issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mystakilla, post: 275562, member: 8337"] I appreciate your replies happybob and yours also damok, however when you state that you dont believe seniority is seniority because a parttimer doesnt put the time in as a fulltimer, it shouldnt have anything to do with hours worked. If a guy who has 10 years fulltime status goes on military leave for 5 years and comes back, your saying his seniority shouldnt count since he didnt put the hours in? I really do appreciate the information on what you stated on how it was back in the day when there never was any parttimers, first i heard that and was wondering where it originated from, however, times change, companies change, as with ups, if they dont keep up with technology and make adjustments they are going to falter. I was parttime for 13 years and yes only worked 4 hours a day which in turn is 20 hours per week (thus "part time"), a fulltimer works double that if not more (usually the latter), however, you can only count the 40 as an average, OT should never be counted on, point im making, during those 13 years, I and many others pay union dues, which were not "part time" union dues, so even though a fulltimer is putting in more hours worked, they are in turn paying the same union dues as everyone else. It is a serious issue and i really didnt think it was going to be that big of a deal to make adjustments. After reading and thinking about what you said, i WOULD be willing to agree with some type of conversion, such as 1/2 of your time. 10 years parttime would equal 5 yrs fulltime and thus making your seniority date stand at 5 yrs after your original seniority date. Although im just specualting but it would be nice to see something done about this issue. [/QUOTE]
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