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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4146633" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Then why become a Christian?&nbsp; Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through him.&nbsp; And if you compare the Gospels the thief on the cross was mocking Christ in a couple of them.&nbsp; When Jesus said that the thief would be in Paradise with him that day the translation from the Greek should have been &quot;the ground.&quot; People see that paradise translation and assume anyone can go to heaven no matter what.&nbsp; The Apostle Paul strove to be right in the sight of God unless he himself should be a castaway.&nbsp; There are people who in past times whipped themselves because the translation is that Paul buffeted his body and brought it under subjection lest he himself become a castaway.&nbsp; Nowhere are we told to do that, or footwash, etc but people take it literally.&nbsp; But I have been taught that in comparison to the masses who are headed to destruction a relative few will make it to heaven.&nbsp; Jesus himself said that comparing the narrow gate with the broad way.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 4146633, member: 24302"] Then why become a Christian? Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through him. And if you compare the Gospels the thief on the cross was mocking Christ in a couple of them. When Jesus said that the thief would be in Paradise with him that day the translation from the Greek should have been "the ground." People see that paradise translation and assume anyone can go to heaven no matter what. The Apostle Paul strove to be right in the sight of God unless he himself should be a castaway. There are people who in past times whipped themselves because the translation is that Paul buffeted his body and brought it under subjection lest he himself become a castaway. Nowhere are we told to do that, or footwash, etc but people take it literally. But I have been taught that in comparison to the masses who are headed to destruction a relative few will make it to heaven. Jesus himself said that comparing the narrow gate with the broad way. [/QUOTE]

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