What does the Bible say about...........???? "On Topic"

BrownFlush

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The Holy Spirit.
Probably one of the most controversial subjects in scripture .
John 16:8 -"And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment"
This promise was made to the Apostles . Not us.
When did He come to them? Acts 2
 
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BrownFlush

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The Bible is not just one book, it is a collection of 66 books, written by about 40 men. Its authors included kings, statesmen, fishermen, seers, a physician, a tax collector, a farmer, a general, and a tent-maker to name a few. Some of the writers were educated men while others were not. The Bible was written over a span of time that covered about 1600 years, with a cast of 2,930 characters in 1,551 places. The Bible was written and composed by men from totally different back-grounds, cultures, and time periods.
The Bible is a book that consists of history, drama, narratives (stories), sermons, orations (speeches), memoirs (personal history), prayers and letters. It claims to foretell the future while promising eternal life those who follow and obey it. The Bible claims to provide the only way to true happiness, explains the why of human suffering, and teaches its readers the only true purpose of life here on earth. The Bible shows men and weaknesses, problems, and fears, while at the same time making dramatic changes in their life, including habits, morals, and desires. Most certainly the Bible is one very unique book.
 

It will be fine

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The Bible is not just one book, it is a collection of 66 books, written by about 40 men. Its authors included kings, statesmen, fishermen, seers, a physician, a tax collector, a farmer, a general, and a tent-maker to name a few. Some of the writers were educated men while others were not. The Bible was written over a span of time that covered about 1600 years, with a cast of 2,930 characters in 1,551 places. The Bible was written and composed by men from totally different back-grounds, cultures, and time periods.
The Bible is a book that consists of history, drama, narratives (stories), sermons, orations (speeches), memoirs (personal history), prayers and letters. It claims to foretell the future while promising eternal life those who follow and obey it. The Bible claims to provide the only way to true happiness, explains the why of human suffering, and teaches its readers the only true purpose of life here on earth. The Bible shows men and weaknesses, problems, and fears, while at the same time making dramatic changes in their life, including habits, morals, and desires. Most certainly the Bible is one very unique book.
Lord of the Rings is better.
 

FromOffTheStreets

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The Holy Spirit.
Probably one of the most controversial subjects in scripture .
John 16:8 -"And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment"
This promise was made to the Apostles . Not us.
When did He come to them? Acts 2
It depends on who you ask. One group views the "holy spirit" much like a force field by making people fall over, speaking in tounges, healings, etc.
Another group has the holy spirit more like a teacher who brings understanding through the word of God. Renewing the mind and changing it from darkness to light.
"Convict the world" does not mean the apostles only.
 
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BrownFlush

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It depends on who you ask. One group views the "holy spirit" much like a force field by making people fall over, speaking in tounges, healings, etc.
Another group has the holy spirit more like a teacher who brings understanding through the word of God. Renewing the mind and changing it from darkness to light.
"Convict the world" does not mean the apostles only.
Convict the world ..is the world.
The "promise" here is to the Apostles of the HS coming.
"How" does the HS convict the world?
My contention is through the Word which the Apostles by direct inspiration of the HS were able to write it.
It depends on who you ask. One group views the "holy spirit" much like a force field by making people fall over, speaking in tounges, healings, etc.
All fake.
The Bible says when the word is competed these things will end. 1 Corinthians 13:10
 
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BrownFlush

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Men could not have known the things of God unless the HolySpirit of God had revealed them to men. The Spirit revealed the things of God to men in the first century and they preached the gospel (cf. 1 Cor. 2:9-13; 1 Pet. 1:12).

The New Testament was in the process of being written in the first century. The wonders, miracles and signs that were done confirmed the truth of the message. Mark 16:20 says, "And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following." We learn from Hebrews 2:3-4 that the "great salvation" first began to be spoken by the Lord "and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will."

The power given by the Holy Spirit to perform miracles confirmed the message being taught, once the message was written, miracles ceased.
 

BrownFlush

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Do you not believe that the holy spirit indwells believers?
Without a doubt. HOW he dwells is the debate.

The Spirit of God enlightens and converts sinners; comforts and strengthens Christians; that love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness; meekness, fidelity, self-control, are all the fruit of the Spirit.

We learn none of this from inner consciousness, but from the Word of God. The how is the Word of God . Independent of the Word we could never know 'whether there be any Holy Spirit.

There is no "personal indwelling". There is only one Holy Spirit, just as there is one Jesus and God.
The dwelling is representably.
 

BrownFlush

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No doubt. .."If anyone speaks, he should speak as one conveying the words of God." 1 Peter 1:11 -- Not much of that happening today for sure.

Some think that Peter meant of Paul's writing that hard to understand was also hard to accept by the Jewish Christian of the first century. At times, Paul had to explain the differences between the law of Moses and the law of Christ to fleshly Israelites who were rooted in traditions and customs which often contradicted the very law which they claimed to observe.
They were so "high minded" because of the advantages which they had over the Gentiles, that they failed to benefit from those advantages (Rom. 3:1,2; 9:4,5). The Jew was so busy excluding the Gentile that he (the Jew) denied himself of those promises to be found in Christ and the gospel of the new covenant.
Peter said there were "some things" hard to be understood, not all things. And the ones who wrested these things were unlearned and unstable readers who did the same thing with other Scriptures.
 
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FromOffTheStreets

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Without a doubt. HOW he dwells is the debate.

The Spirit of God enlightens and converts sinners; comforts and strengthens Christians; that love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness; meekness, fidelity, self-control, are all the fruit of the Spirit.

We learn none of this from inner consciousness, but from the Word of God. The how is the Word of God . Independent of the Word we could never know 'whether there be any Holy Spirit.

There is no "personal indwelling". There is only one Holy Spirit, just as there is one Jesus and God.
The dwelling is representably.
1 Cor. 3:16 " do you not know that you are the temple of God & that the spirit of God dwells in you"
 
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