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What exactly happens with a part time 5 year vested pension? Is it worth it to get just a 5 year pension?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ancient Alien" data-source="post: 4550814" data-attributes="member: 70963"><p>I remember reading here the supervisor say a few years back that</p><p></p><p>Amazon won't quit UPS 100%. If we opened up a brand new sealed deck of cards to play high card. The card you picked and the one I picked are equally balanced on who the lucky winner is. Right?</p><p></p><p>Amazon has the ability to quickly record into their system that dentist at Fire Lake complains 1 out of 4-times and takes our drivers time up or the Younger Ranch on Teko Summit is 5-miles in and 5-miles out and in the winter our drivers get stuck in his driveway 15% of time. Amazon will slowly keep sending UPS the least profitable deliveries or the money losing parcels and/or stops. Wasn't that long ago we'd lose business to FedEx or gain or retain a lucrative business in service & price. Remember that big puzzling quiz that UPS would have at PCM's or annual sit downs about what customers want the most... a non damaged package, a package delivered on time, to be able to track their package. I always got it wrong and picked the damage is their biggest concern and it turned out is was tracking, That was their #1 priority. Amazon is leaps & bounds ahead of UPS on technology. Plus have younger enthusiastic techno savvy employees. UPS is old school. Sweat, Blood & Guts. That's a recipe for disaster in the 21st century.</p><p></p><p>Amazon pulled away from Business to Business recently. Covid pushed them back. They don't want to be known as a sloppy company. Which it was looking that way at first. Amazon will be back. Better & Stronger delivering billions a year to major box stores.</p><p></p><p>It would be foolish for UPS not to believe they're a real threat and over $3,000 a share for AMZN is an easy way to fund your operations by liquidating some stock. Say Amazon needed a nice state of the art distribution center that costs $30,000,000, AMZN would need to sell 10,000 shares. Say UPS needed one at $30-m. They'd need to sell over 260,000 shares.</p><p></p><p>Amazon has got UPS by the short hairs. Plus the management team is loaded with former center managers and supervisors. They know how UPS looks and plans 10-years forward. (UPS plans 10-years out if you didn't know) </p><p></p><p>It's not good. We'd of all laughed 15-years ago thinking UPS will be put out of business during our lifetime. I don't think any loyal UPSer is laughing now and there's not a great many loyal ones left.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancient Alien, post: 4550814, member: 70963"] I remember reading here the supervisor say a few years back that Amazon won't quit UPS 100%. If we opened up a brand new sealed deck of cards to play high card. The card you picked and the one I picked are equally balanced on who the lucky winner is. Right? Amazon has the ability to quickly record into their system that dentist at Fire Lake complains 1 out of 4-times and takes our drivers time up or the Younger Ranch on Teko Summit is 5-miles in and 5-miles out and in the winter our drivers get stuck in his driveway 15% of time. Amazon will slowly keep sending UPS the least profitable deliveries or the money losing parcels and/or stops. Wasn't that long ago we'd lose business to FedEx or gain or retain a lucrative business in service & price. Remember that big puzzling quiz that UPS would have at PCM's or annual sit downs about what customers want the most... a non damaged package, a package delivered on time, to be able to track their package. I always got it wrong and picked the damage is their biggest concern and it turned out is was tracking, That was their #1 priority. Amazon is leaps & bounds ahead of UPS on technology. Plus have younger enthusiastic techno savvy employees. UPS is old school. Sweat, Blood & Guts. That's a recipe for disaster in the 21st century. Amazon pulled away from Business to Business recently. Covid pushed them back. They don't want to be known as a sloppy company. Which it was looking that way at first. Amazon will be back. Better & Stronger delivering billions a year to major box stores. It would be foolish for UPS not to believe they're a real threat and over $3,000 a share for AMZN is an easy way to fund your operations by liquidating some stock. Say Amazon needed a nice state of the art distribution center that costs $30,000,000, AMZN would need to sell 10,000 shares. Say UPS needed one at $30-m. They'd need to sell over 260,000 shares. Amazon has got UPS by the short hairs. Plus the management team is loaded with former center managers and supervisors. They know how UPS looks and plans 10-years forward. (UPS plans 10-years out if you didn't know) It's not good. We'd of all laughed 15-years ago thinking UPS will be put out of business during our lifetime. I don't think any loyal UPSer is laughing now and there's not a great many loyal ones left. [/QUOTE]
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