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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 129320" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p><a href="http://www.mises.org/books/manwelfarestate.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.mises.org/books/manwelfarestate.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>At the link above is a book printed in 1970' entitled "Man and the Welfare State" and no I haven't read it as I've just found it in PDF form on the net. The above link is that PDF file. As I opened the file and began to look it over I started reading the first chapter entitled, "Instant Utopia" with is pages 1-3 in the book but pages 10-12 in the PDF file. I'd like to encourage you to read just these 3 pages and I guess like most including myself now looking back 35 years, it's another "the sky is falling" clarion call but step back a little further and look again. Here's what I see.</p><p> </p><p>Here we are 36 years in the future but look at the ills that the author saw in that day as listed on this 3 pages.</p><p> </p><p>1)Youthful generation full of cynicism and revolt (yeah I was there in 1970' and loved every minute of it LOL!)</p><p>2)Politicians making promises of full employment, prosperity and economic growth and solving age-old problems</p><p>3)Concerns of the day were size and scope of gov't in our lives plus it's related spending, tax burden, budget deficits, loss of purchasing power and even Social Security worries</p><p> </p><p>That was 1970'? Does this at all sound familar? Talk about Deja Vu.</p><p> </p><p>OK, let's now look from our stepped back position at the constant over the last 35 years in which we have seen the same old problems follow us around like an ugly, worthless, stray dog that we'd all like to shake loose. The constant are actually 2 items. </p><p> </p><p>#1 The first being the folks who sat in power and controlled policy regarding these very issues above. In that, I mean the democrat and the republican parties who in varying times and forms controlled the apparatus of gov't. Folks, in 35 years, what really has changed? Forget the "sky's falling" bit as we're still here but focus on the many problems that the politicians have sold us a spin job on that their party or policy or platform beliefs will all be solved once and foreall when they are elected and set public policy. In 35 years, what has really been solved with all this work and effort? How many of us would keep our jobs if we had so little to show for all the effort? And that leads me to the 2nd and quite frankly the more important of the 2 constants I spoke of earlier.</p><p> </p><p>#2 That other constant is "US", the American Voter as like leemings we mirgrate to the polling places in a genetically embedded process having been mentally conditioned to send by the voting process the very same folks right back again to continue doing the very same thing over and over and over so that in another 35 years our children and grandchildren can read our version of the 1970' book above(edition 2006') and then not only will they see the same thing in their day but they will swear up and down that over 2006' version was nothing more than we were lazy as hell and just photo copied the 1970' version and claimed it as our own beause it fir like a glove. The real horror that our children and grand children will realize in 2042' is that we were really horrible parents and citizens who taught them no different and thus they will pull out the 1970' book and like we, their parents and grandparents, and photo copy that damn same book for their own history. </p><p> </p><p>Do we just keep sending the same old people there like we've done the last 35 years and predestine our kids to the same rotten barrel of apples we've continued to choose or do we walk into that voting booth and do something that bucks the status quo but sends a huge message that our kids can write a completely different and positive story of their own history (maybe even burn that book LOL!) of their time and look back at us with love, effection and gratitude for finally standing up and thinking for ourselves for once.</p><p> </p><p>It's time to break this cycle!</p><p> </p><p>JMHO!!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 129320, member: 2189"] [URL]http://www.mises.org/books/manwelfarestate.pdf[/URL] At the link above is a book printed in 1970' entitled "Man and the Welfare State" and no I haven't read it as I've just found it in PDF form on the net. The above link is that PDF file. As I opened the file and began to look it over I started reading the first chapter entitled, "Instant Utopia" with is pages 1-3 in the book but pages 10-12 in the PDF file. I'd like to encourage you to read just these 3 pages and I guess like most including myself now looking back 35 years, it's another "the sky is falling" clarion call but step back a little further and look again. Here's what I see. Here we are 36 years in the future but look at the ills that the author saw in that day as listed on this 3 pages. 1)Youthful generation full of cynicism and revolt (yeah I was there in 1970' and loved every minute of it LOL!) 2)Politicians making promises of full employment, prosperity and economic growth and solving age-old problems 3)Concerns of the day were size and scope of gov't in our lives plus it's related spending, tax burden, budget deficits, loss of purchasing power and even Social Security worries That was 1970'? Does this at all sound familar? Talk about Deja Vu. OK, let's now look from our stepped back position at the constant over the last 35 years in which we have seen the same old problems follow us around like an ugly, worthless, stray dog that we'd all like to shake loose. The constant are actually 2 items. #1 The first being the folks who sat in power and controlled policy regarding these very issues above. In that, I mean the democrat and the republican parties who in varying times and forms controlled the apparatus of gov't. Folks, in 35 years, what really has changed? Forget the "sky's falling" bit as we're still here but focus on the many problems that the politicians have sold us a spin job on that their party or policy or platform beliefs will all be solved once and foreall when they are elected and set public policy. In 35 years, what has really been solved with all this work and effort? How many of us would keep our jobs if we had so little to show for all the effort? And that leads me to the 2nd and quite frankly the more important of the 2 constants I spoke of earlier. #2 That other constant is "US", the American Voter as like leemings we mirgrate to the polling places in a genetically embedded process having been mentally conditioned to send by the voting process the very same folks right back again to continue doing the very same thing over and over and over so that in another 35 years our children and grandchildren can read our version of the 1970' book above(edition 2006') and then not only will they see the same thing in their day but they will swear up and down that over 2006' version was nothing more than we were lazy as hell and just photo copied the 1970' version and claimed it as our own beause it fir like a glove. The real horror that our children and grand children will realize in 2042' is that we were really horrible parents and citizens who taught them no different and thus they will pull out the 1970' book and like we, their parents and grandparents, and photo copy that damn same book for their own history. Do we just keep sending the same old people there like we've done the last 35 years and predestine our kids to the same rotten barrel of apples we've continued to choose or do we walk into that voting booth and do something that bucks the status quo but sends a huge message that our kids can write a completely different and positive story of their own history (maybe even burn that book LOL!) of their time and look back at us with love, effection and gratitude for finally standing up and thinking for ourselves for once. It's time to break this cycle! JMHO!!!!! [/QUOTE]
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