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What would happen to our pensions with a dissolving of a Teamster/UPS contract?
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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 5569750" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>Not saying that Federal Law is going to save us, from what I have seen these protective agencies like the DOL, DOJ and NLRB that deal with labor in particular have been efficiently neutered by the sponsored corporative lobbyists over the last 40 years. When was the last time we seen corporate executives serve real time in a Federal Institution, occasionally they will throw one under the bus just to say they are doing their job or keep it.</p><p></p><p>The original criminal and civil penalties for wrongdoing are now insufficient to deter these corrupt actions or directives, besides that they have access to a team of high price attorneys to protect them. Our Union is following along in that direction unfortunately, has anybody else asked for help from the highest levels after being told by our locals that the issue or problem is way over their heads. Face it you as an individual do not have the means or the time to challenge, they will wait it out and drag it along knowing full well that your will get frustrated and eventually quit fighting. The system is set up that way..remember they have a team of paid professionals that are looking for an out or a loophole to prevent any liabilities, you on the other hand are working 50 hours a day and trying to raise a family. Even if you go out and get an attorney (who is willing to take on these large corporations or organizations) it will cost you in time, energy and resources.</p><p></p><p>There was a UPS phrase that was popular back in the 80's and 90's: "Doing the right thing" that has been replaced some time ago by "If you can get by with it..Do it" and look the other way or find an out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 5569750, member: 49065"] Not saying that Federal Law is going to save us, from what I have seen these protective agencies like the DOL, DOJ and NLRB that deal with labor in particular have been efficiently neutered by the sponsored corporative lobbyists over the last 40 years. When was the last time we seen corporate executives serve real time in a Federal Institution, occasionally they will throw one under the bus just to say they are doing their job or keep it. The original criminal and civil penalties for wrongdoing are now insufficient to deter these corrupt actions or directives, besides that they have access to a team of high price attorneys to protect them. Our Union is following along in that direction unfortunately, has anybody else asked for help from the highest levels after being told by our locals that the issue or problem is way over their heads. Face it you as an individual do not have the means or the time to challenge, they will wait it out and drag it along knowing full well that your will get frustrated and eventually quit fighting. The system is set up that way..remember they have a team of paid professionals that are looking for an out or a loophole to prevent any liabilities, you on the other hand are working 50 hours a day and trying to raise a family. Even if you go out and get an attorney (who is willing to take on these large corporations or organizations) it will cost you in time, energy and resources. There was a UPS phrase that was popular back in the 80's and 90's: "Doing the right thing" that has been replaced some time ago by "If you can get by with it..Do it" and look the other way or find an out. [/QUOTE]
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