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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 549705" data-attributes="member: 484"><p><strong>Re: what would you do</strong></p><p></p><p>The flag to many represents the independence and self determination that was the point of the whole mess we call the Civil war. Most nowadays think of it as the war to free the slaves, but it was far from that. It was not until late in the war that the thought even became popular. There were many slave owners in the north that had to be forced to free their slaves.</p><p> </p><p>And many "slaves" in the north were not from Africa, but instead were white. These served on with their servitude long after the slaves were released.</p><p> </p><p>The idea of preserving the union at all costs is what prompted Lincoln to do many things as President that many people to this day do not have a clue.</p><p> </p><p>I find it very interesting to note that when discussing slavery, no one wants to talk about who actually enslaved the people to begin with, so that the white man could ship them to the rest of the world. They were not racist, they were enslaving people of their own race, for money. Or power.</p><p> </p><p>But I digress.</p><p> </p><p>The Stars and Bars existed in various forms before the war, and had nothing to do with race. But as impossible as it is to unring a bell, so it is impossible to undo what you have learned.</p><p> </p><p>One last item that you might also not think about.</p><p> </p><p>After the Army of Northern Aggression raped, burned, and plundered its way through the south, it became a badge of pride for those in the south to flaunt their flag as a sign of silent rebellion to the victors of the "war", and as such it is still used to this day. Youthful rebellion against authority. </p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 549705, member: 484"] [b]Re: what would you do[/b] The flag to many represents the independence and self determination that was the point of the whole mess we call the Civil war. Most nowadays think of it as the war to free the slaves, but it was far from that. It was not until late in the war that the thought even became popular. There were many slave owners in the north that had to be forced to free their slaves. And many "slaves" in the north were not from Africa, but instead were white. These served on with their servitude long after the slaves were released. The idea of preserving the union at all costs is what prompted Lincoln to do many things as President that many people to this day do not have a clue. I find it very interesting to note that when discussing slavery, no one wants to talk about who actually enslaved the people to begin with, so that the white man could ship them to the rest of the world. They were not racist, they were enslaving people of their own race, for money. Or power. But I digress. The Stars and Bars existed in various forms before the war, and had nothing to do with race. But as impossible as it is to unring a bell, so it is impossible to undo what you have learned. One last item that you might also not think about. After the Army of Northern Aggression raped, burned, and plundered its way through the south, it became a badge of pride for those in the south to flaunt their flag as a sign of silent rebellion to the victors of the "war", and as such it is still used to this day. Youthful rebellion against authority. d [/QUOTE]
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