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<blockquote data-quote="steeltoe" data-source="post: 263406" data-attributes="member: 9491"><p>Pasaholic, I have to jump in here and offer you what being a union member is about. </p><p> </p><p>1. How can you compare our benefits to management? If they make their <strong>own</strong> pay for benefits, what in the world are they going to do to us in the future. Our part-timers now receive health benefits after roughly 120 days for both themselves and their dependants. Under this contract, they woud wait one year for themselves and an additonal 6 months for dependants. If you were ever part-time, did you wait this long for health insurance? Of course not, because the people before you did not allow such language. As a man, how could you want less for our future Teamsters, than what you received yourself? I was raised that you take care of the ones in the future so that they can have it better than you did. Is this not what we teach our children? Being a Union member is about the whole picture, not what suits just your needs. You offer the word "We" in your statement, but you are only talking about the "we" that is you and people in your situation. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>As for 22.3 jobs, I will not totally disagree. As for FEDEX drivers working 12 hour days. They do not have a union, therefor can not file grievances. I do not understand where you are going with this premise.</p><p> </p><p>Now, for the real kicker. I am not sure how you can make a statement about future part-timers as if they do not matter. This is part of the problem with our union. Me, Me, Me, that is what most care about.</p><p> </p><p>Now, let's talk about your ridiculas statement about "Who pays higher dues". I am in the South East. We all pay 2.5 hours per month to be members of the union. For numbers sake, let's say the average driver makes $28.00 per hour and is guaranteed 172 hours per month (40 x 4.3 = 172). That equals $4816.00 per month with no overtime. The average driver is paying $70.00 per month in dues or <strong>1.45%</strong> of his monthly salary to be a union member. Now, let's say the average part-time is making $12.00 per hour. He is guaranteed 75.25 hours per month (17.5 hours x 4.3 weeks = 75.25 hours) for a total of $903.00 per month. His dues cost him $30.00 per month (2.5 x $12.00 per hour=$30.00) His monthly union dues percentage is <strong>3.3%</strong> of his monthly salary. The average part-timer is paying double the percentage of his monthly income to be a union member than the average full-timer. This is not hard to understand.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, you may pay a higher dollar amount, but the part-timer is paying double the percentage and has less than half of the guaranteed hours. Which do you think has the higher burden of dues? Again, it is not hard to understand. So, before you talk about your higher dues and not caring about our future brothers and sisters, think about what you are saying. </p><p> </p><p>I am sure that I sound like a jerk, but your post was very disapointing. It seems that the concept of all for one and one for all has gone down the toilet.</p><p> </p><p>As far as your question about the Union not caring about the part-timers. I have to say, that you are correct. We should be questioning our leaders and asking them why they are selling out our future brothers and sisters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeltoe, post: 263406, member: 9491"] Pasaholic, I have to jump in here and offer you what being a union member is about. 1. How can you compare our benefits to management? If they make their [B]own[/B] pay for benefits, what in the world are they going to do to us in the future. Our part-timers now receive health benefits after roughly 120 days for both themselves and their dependants. Under this contract, they woud wait one year for themselves and an additonal 6 months for dependants. If you were ever part-time, did you wait this long for health insurance? Of course not, because the people before you did not allow such language. As a man, how could you want less for our future Teamsters, than what you received yourself? I was raised that you take care of the ones in the future so that they can have it better than you did. Is this not what we teach our children? Being a Union member is about the whole picture, not what suits just your needs. You offer the word "We" in your statement, but you are only talking about the "we" that is you and people in your situation. As for 22.3 jobs, I will not totally disagree. As for FEDEX drivers working 12 hour days. They do not have a union, therefor can not file grievances. I do not understand where you are going with this premise. Now, for the real kicker. I am not sure how you can make a statement about future part-timers as if they do not matter. This is part of the problem with our union. Me, Me, Me, that is what most care about. Now, let's talk about your ridiculas statement about "Who pays higher dues". I am in the South East. We all pay 2.5 hours per month to be members of the union. For numbers sake, let's say the average driver makes $28.00 per hour and is guaranteed 172 hours per month (40 x 4.3 = 172). That equals $4816.00 per month with no overtime. The average driver is paying $70.00 per month in dues or [B]1.45%[/B] of his monthly salary to be a union member. Now, let's say the average part-time is making $12.00 per hour. He is guaranteed 75.25 hours per month (17.5 hours x 4.3 weeks = 75.25 hours) for a total of $903.00 per month. His dues cost him $30.00 per month (2.5 x $12.00 per hour=$30.00) His monthly union dues percentage is [B]3.3%[/B] of his monthly salary. The average part-timer is paying double the percentage of his monthly income to be a union member than the average full-timer. This is not hard to understand. Yes, you may pay a higher dollar amount, but the part-timer is paying double the percentage and has less than half of the guaranteed hours. Which do you think has the higher burden of dues? Again, it is not hard to understand. So, before you talk about your higher dues and not caring about our future brothers and sisters, think about what you are saying. I am sure that I sound like a jerk, but your post was very disapointing. It seems that the concept of all for one and one for all has gone down the toilet. As far as your question about the Union not caring about the part-timers. I have to say, that you are correct. We should be questioning our leaders and asking them why they are selling out our future brothers and sisters. [/QUOTE]
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