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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 677686" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Excellent point Jim!</p><p></p><p>I read an interesting article the other day in Newsweek entitled, "The Return of the NeoCons" and an underlying theme in the article IMO was exactly what you said above. As Tom Knapp pointed out in his article on the Mass. Senate election I referenced in that BC thread, when it comes to voting for either of the "pig party" candidates, it's really "Big Gov't Candidate #1" or "Big Gov't Candidate #2."</p><p></p><p>I find it interesting and encouraging while democrats and republicans merge into a single party yet definded in difference as the difference between the NFC and the AFC is to the NFL, the paleo-right, paleo-left, libertarian right and libertarian left along with varying elements of anarchism from anarcho-capitialist/libertarian to anarcho socialist, all factions are talking to each other and discovering antiwar, antistate and anti-corporate state to the point that even some of a more socialist idea are actually <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/1738" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">advocating a true free market</span> </a>outside both the state and state capitialist too. Seems in many respects the labels are becoming items to be jettisoned and the actual nuts and bolts are getting discussed and a whole lot of common ground is being discovered.</p><p></p><p>The one main appeal of a true free market is like AV8 said of Mass. State healthcare plan (and he was correct), if they all agree to the plan and don't export it either in forced entry or forced payment on others outside their group, then they were free to take part and we were free not too and if the plan acutally does prove workable, then we are free to start out own or if it's workable to freed markets, join their plan. Everyone wins IMO because freedom and liberty prevail. A true Free Market. Well, everyone but the corporate elites who lose their monopoly or cartel protected status thanks to state intervention in the market place but then that got us all in the mess we find ourselves now!</p><p></p><p>We need to learn the difference between a state imposed "free market" and a "true free market!"</p><p></p><p>And back to your point of both parties being the same, notice what Ron Paul sez about the actions of the "minority" on behalf of gov't spending! Seems someone doesn't want to be outdone by President Spend-A-Lot and his majority party!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]oWBhgAjPGhw[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 677686, member: 2189"] Excellent point Jim! I read an interesting article the other day in Newsweek entitled, "The Return of the NeoCons" and an underlying theme in the article IMO was exactly what you said above. As Tom Knapp pointed out in his article on the Mass. Senate election I referenced in that BC thread, when it comes to voting for either of the "pig party" candidates, it's really "Big Gov't Candidate #1" or "Big Gov't Candidate #2." I find it interesting and encouraging while democrats and republicans merge into a single party yet definded in difference as the difference between the NFC and the AFC is to the NFL, the paleo-right, paleo-left, libertarian right and libertarian left along with varying elements of anarchism from anarcho-capitialist/libertarian to anarcho socialist, all factions are talking to each other and discovering antiwar, antistate and anti-corporate state to the point that even some of a more socialist idea are actually [URL='http://c4ss.org/content/1738'][COLOR=red]advocating a true free market[/COLOR] [/URL]outside both the state and state capitialist too. Seems in many respects the labels are becoming items to be jettisoned and the actual nuts and bolts are getting discussed and a whole lot of common ground is being discovered. The one main appeal of a true free market is like AV8 said of Mass. State healthcare plan (and he was correct), if they all agree to the plan and don't export it either in forced entry or forced payment on others outside their group, then they were free to take part and we were free not too and if the plan acutally does prove workable, then we are free to start out own or if it's workable to freed markets, join their plan. Everyone wins IMO because freedom and liberty prevail. A true Free Market. Well, everyone but the corporate elites who lose their monopoly or cartel protected status thanks to state intervention in the market place but then that got us all in the mess we find ourselves now! We need to learn the difference between a state imposed "free market" and a "true free market!" And back to your point of both parties being the same, notice what Ron Paul sez about the actions of the "minority" on behalf of gov't spending! Seems someone doesn't want to be outdone by President Spend-A-Lot and his majority party! :peaceful: [MEDIA=youtube]oWBhgAjPGhw[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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