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Where is the posting about the Div. manager memo wanting old drivers forced out?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 863816" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p><span style="color: #b22222"><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>FAIL !</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #b22222"><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #b22222"><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong></strong></span></span><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 12px">First of all, that <strong>IS NOT</strong> what the letter purported to say. The letter stated that "drivers overallowed by 2 hours would be thinned out"... there is <strong>NO MENTION</strong> of age in the suggestion and its the <strong>POSTER </strong>to leaps to the conclusion that it is<strong> AGE</strong> related. The poster goes on and on about age and illegality but has absolutely <strong>ZERO</strong> facts to base that opinion on.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">The fact that a driver in his center is running 2 hours overallowed and he is 53 years old means nothing. Too many people on this board want to play Perry Mason with language and this is another example of it.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">The letter is harmless and within the level of acceptance for running a business. The company has a right to run the business the way it wants to and if a comment is made "privately" between supervisors that suggests that they "target" overallowed drivers then whats the big deal?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Are the routes accurately rated? (NO) Can drivers break standard doing the job correctly? (NO) Are the time studies currently in place fair and honest? (NO)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">But that doesnt mean anything. A fair days work for a fairs days pay is the principle we operate under. A physical observation is required to make this determination. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">I am a 21 year driver and I run 2 hours overallowed everyday and believe me, they say NOTHING TO ME. Yes, I am the senior steward of the region and a former executive officer of the Teamsters but first and foremost, I DO THE JOB THE WAY THEY WANT IT DONE and that means 2 hours in the hole. I am 52 years old.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">They have been on car with me and the more they ride, the more the numbers slide. The answer? They stay off car now.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Do the job correctly. </span></p><p></p><p>Look, its no secret that this company wants to rid itself of its high paid drivers. The cost is tremendous despite the sacrifices we all make on the road ( come home late, weather, pain, exhaustion, missing school events etc etc etc)</p><p></p><p>We all sacrifice so many things for this company everyday that it justifies what we earn.</p><p></p><p>I have said a million times before that the company would be better served bringing back incentive and paying us 1 hour of incentive at $32.50 than paying us 2 hours of overtime at $47.50 an hour.</p><p></p><p>They want to speed us up? Pay us for it.</p><p></p><p>This "letter" is worthless and hardly worth the time or investment in its contents. Its a harmless piece of nothing the poster tried to make into a huge piece of something.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 863816, member: 17969"] [COLOR=#b22222][SIZE=5][B]FAIL ! [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=5][SIZE=3]First of all, that [B]IS NOT[/B] what the letter purported to say. The letter stated that "drivers overallowed by 2 hours would be thinned out"... there is [B]NO MENTION[/B] of age in the suggestion and its the [B]POSTER [/B]to leaps to the conclusion that it is[B] AGE[/B] related. The poster goes on and on about age and illegality but has absolutely [B]ZERO[/B] facts to base that opinion on.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The fact that a driver in his center is running 2 hours overallowed and he is 53 years old means nothing. Too many people on this board want to play Perry Mason with language and this is another example of it. The letter is harmless and within the level of acceptance for running a business. The company has a right to run the business the way it wants to and if a comment is made "privately" between supervisors that suggests that they "target" overallowed drivers then whats the big deal? Are the routes accurately rated? (NO) Can drivers break standard doing the job correctly? (NO) Are the time studies currently in place fair and honest? (NO) But that doesnt mean anything. A fair days work for a fairs days pay is the principle we operate under. A physical observation is required to make this determination. I am a 21 year driver and I run 2 hours overallowed everyday and believe me, they say NOTHING TO ME. Yes, I am the senior steward of the region and a former executive officer of the Teamsters but first and foremost, I DO THE JOB THE WAY THEY WANT IT DONE and that means 2 hours in the hole. I am 52 years old. They have been on car with me and the more they ride, the more the numbers slide. The answer? They stay off car now. Do the job correctly. [/SIZE] Look, its no secret that this company wants to rid itself of its high paid drivers. The cost is tremendous despite the sacrifices we all make on the road ( come home late, weather, pain, exhaustion, missing school events etc etc etc) We all sacrifice so many things for this company everyday that it justifies what we earn. I have said a million times before that the company would be better served bringing back incentive and paying us 1 hour of incentive at $32.50 than paying us 2 hours of overtime at $47.50 an hour. They want to speed us up? Pay us for it. This "letter" is worthless and hardly worth the time or investment in its contents. Its a harmless piece of nothing the poster tried to make into a huge piece of something. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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