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Which came first, the chicken or the scrambled egg
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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Dog" data-source="post: 306514" data-attributes="member: 12109"><p>I think the two posts above mine are right on the mark. Most of it is lip service except when OSHA or an injury is involved. I guess that's where alot of my negativity about UPS comes from. I do not believe UPS is serious about safety except when $<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/greedy.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":greedy:" title="Greedy :greedy:" data-shortname=":greedy:" /> is involved. I have witnessed first hand supes directing loaders into a trailer with noxious fumes. Production over people. I used to think we were all in this together, company and hourly, but now I think upper mngt doesn't care near as much about employees and safety as it does about production and lining their pockets off our backs. I know not every mgmt person is a cold hearted, calculating, insensitive, moneygrabbing, push you under the bus to climb the corporate ladder type of person. BUT 75% of the ones I've known and worked for HAVE been. I know I come off as a complainer and a whiner here at BC. I really don't say much at work, just do my job, and get home. I have also noticed that sometimes my being quiet and reserved at work is sometimes perceived as being weak and easy to manipulate. I have had to fight for my rights. But you have to know your rights first. Safety is first with me, but not with the company<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/angry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angry:" title="Angry :angry:" data-shortname=":angry:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Dog, post: 306514, member: 12109"] I think the two posts above mine are right on the mark. Most of it is lip service except when OSHA or an injury is involved. I guess that's where alot of my negativity about UPS comes from. I do not believe UPS is serious about safety except when $:greedy: is involved. I have witnessed first hand supes directing loaders into a trailer with noxious fumes. Production over people. I used to think we were all in this together, company and hourly, but now I think upper mngt doesn't care near as much about employees and safety as it does about production and lining their pockets off our backs. I know not every mgmt person is a cold hearted, calculating, insensitive, moneygrabbing, push you under the bus to climb the corporate ladder type of person. BUT 75% of the ones I've known and worked for HAVE been. I know I come off as a complainer and a whiner here at BC. I really don't say much at work, just do my job, and get home. I have also noticed that sometimes my being quiet and reserved at work is sometimes perceived as being weak and easy to manipulate. I have had to fight for my rights. But you have to know your rights first. Safety is first with me, but not with the company:angry: [/QUOTE]
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