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<blockquote data-quote="mamirk69" data-source="post: 883230" data-attributes="member: 34893"><p>Now let me get this straight, this committee known as the teamsters national united parcel service negotiating committee that has James P. Hoffa, chair, hall, co chair, Leon Cooper, sgt at arms, Anthony Magrene, sgt at arms, C.Thomas Keegel, and 69 other Teamster brass posted on page 162 of the National Master United Parcel Service Agreement did not have anything to do with the National Master United Parcel Service Agreement? I know my supplement is different from California supplement based on various laws within my state compared to California. You cannot believe that a supplement in California is the same as a supplement in New York. At the end of the day we all know who to hold accountable for our supplement but we also know who to hold accountable for the national side of the agreement. </p><p></p><p>To sit here and blame the membership for their lack of knowledge of what was going in this contract is rather criminal on your behalf and let me explain why. Reason number one, Hoffa paid for all business agents and presidents of locals to be sent to Vegas to push this lousy contract down our throats. My local president stated during our craft meeting that this was a great contract. Our pensions were secured not noting anyone under central states would have to retire during this contract or face losing portion of their pension because UPS has only guaranteed their pension until 2013. After 2013, hold your breath with Central States. This type of information was with held. My local president made it known that the part timers would not be well represented in this contract but he quoted,"We will take care of them next time."</p><p></p><p>UPS were having focus group meetings on the job pushing the employees to vote yes for this contract. How absurd is that? UPS knew they had the upper hand on this whole entire contract. When negotiating each side is suppose feel as though they both lost because each one gain something significant but the union gain absolutely nothing in this contract and pushed individuals to ratify this contract except in and you guessed it New York. Their union officials did not buy into the foolishness and gave the people the truth about a contract that no one had in their hands to browse except union officials. So I ask you as an union official and I know you voted no but did you inform the people on the union floor that this was a poor contract and give them the facts? If not, then you are no different than Hoffa.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamirk69, post: 883230, member: 34893"] Now let me get this straight, this committee known as the teamsters national united parcel service negotiating committee that has James P. Hoffa, chair, hall, co chair, Leon Cooper, sgt at arms, Anthony Magrene, sgt at arms, C.Thomas Keegel, and 69 other Teamster brass posted on page 162 of the National Master United Parcel Service Agreement did not have anything to do with the National Master United Parcel Service Agreement? I know my supplement is different from California supplement based on various laws within my state compared to California. You cannot believe that a supplement in California is the same as a supplement in New York. At the end of the day we all know who to hold accountable for our supplement but we also know who to hold accountable for the national side of the agreement. To sit here and blame the membership for their lack of knowledge of what was going in this contract is rather criminal on your behalf and let me explain why. Reason number one, Hoffa paid for all business agents and presidents of locals to be sent to Vegas to push this lousy contract down our throats. My local president stated during our craft meeting that this was a great contract. Our pensions were secured not noting anyone under central states would have to retire during this contract or face losing portion of their pension because UPS has only guaranteed their pension until 2013. After 2013, hold your breath with Central States. This type of information was with held. My local president made it known that the part timers would not be well represented in this contract but he quoted,"We will take care of them next time." UPS were having focus group meetings on the job pushing the employees to vote yes for this contract. How absurd is that? UPS knew they had the upper hand on this whole entire contract. When negotiating each side is suppose feel as though they both lost because each one gain something significant but the union gain absolutely nothing in this contract and pushed individuals to ratify this contract except in and you guessed it New York. Their union officials did not buy into the foolishness and gave the people the truth about a contract that no one had in their hands to browse except union officials. So I ask you as an union official and I know you voted no but did you inform the people on the union floor that this was a poor contract and give them the facts? If not, then you are no different than Hoffa. [/QUOTE]
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