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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 883420" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>To this , I say Kudos, I agree with you. The books were printed late and handed out late, but in a <em>slight</em> defense of the union, not all MOA's were agreed to in time and delayed the printing, that being said, extra time was taken in preparation, proof reading and selecting the printer. The books should always be out to the members ASAP and not whenever. In todays digital world, we will be able to see the final version ONLINE long before the book comes out. This will help us out in learning whats inside and allow all of us to make a good decision.</p><p></p><p>Let me confirm something for you. Its something many dont know about compensation and the local union.</p><p></p><p>Each person who attends a convention or teamster event is paid by the local. That means, their weekly paycheck, lodging and transportation (spouses have to pay themselves) and a per diem that can range anywhere from $125.00 to $225.00 (per day) depending on the Eboards vote and decision on policy.</p><p></p><p>There are meetings that MUST be attended, and some are B.S., some days are 2 hours long and then golfing and other sorts of personal entertainment. There are federal requirements to meet in the form of meetings in order to stay within the legality of union money spent.</p><p></p><p>At the joint council convention for instance for us in the southwest, all the locals arrive with all agents, officers and office staff. We meet all week for meetings, and then on saturday night, a giant dinner meeting that takes up 4 ball rooms takes place. Guest speakers blah blah blah for a couple of hours, and then a GIANT drawing for prizes takes place! Yes, I said PRIZES. The joint council purchases tens of thousands of dollars in merchandise from refrigerators, to Televisions, to microwaves, to phones, to playstations,to video game sets, to lawn mowers, to sporting goods, to electronics, to household appliances, to furniture..etc etc IS GIVEN AWAY IN A DRAWING.</p><p></p><p>Union dues pay for this merchandise of course, and members can buy extra tickets for the drawing for $1.</p><p></p><p>I had a serious problem with this policy when I first experienced it. The local buys tickets for each officer. Agents and staff must buy their own tickets. I won a playstation2, a lawn mower and a boombox, in my first attendance. I donated all three items to my local boys club.</p><p></p><p>I dont support things like this, but its been a practice for decades. Perks of the job. Some of you may think this sucks, and some may agree with it, but its the nature of the business. Nobody is going to stop the practice.</p><p></p><p>Yes, Vegas Conferences are basically play time, but at the end of the day, The teamsters are supporting the local teamsters (hotel workers) by keeping the hotel ( BALLYS) filled to the brim. </p><p></p><p>There are many things like this that happen in the union business, and they will always happen. Its all legal, and in some respects wasteful, but bringing that many people together is good for the brotherhood.</p><p></p><p>Hoffa didnt create this climate, and we cant hold him responsbible for it. I just wanted you to know something really "inside".</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 883420, member: 17969"] To this , I say Kudos, I agree with you. The books were printed late and handed out late, but in a [I]slight[/I] defense of the union, not all MOA's were agreed to in time and delayed the printing, that being said, extra time was taken in preparation, proof reading and selecting the printer. The books should always be out to the members ASAP and not whenever. In todays digital world, we will be able to see the final version ONLINE long before the book comes out. This will help us out in learning whats inside and allow all of us to make a good decision. Let me confirm something for you. Its something many dont know about compensation and the local union. Each person who attends a convention or teamster event is paid by the local. That means, their weekly paycheck, lodging and transportation (spouses have to pay themselves) and a per diem that can range anywhere from $125.00 to $225.00 (per day) depending on the Eboards vote and decision on policy. There are meetings that MUST be attended, and some are B.S., some days are 2 hours long and then golfing and other sorts of personal entertainment. There are federal requirements to meet in the form of meetings in order to stay within the legality of union money spent. At the joint council convention for instance for us in the southwest, all the locals arrive with all agents, officers and office staff. We meet all week for meetings, and then on saturday night, a giant dinner meeting that takes up 4 ball rooms takes place. Guest speakers blah blah blah for a couple of hours, and then a GIANT drawing for prizes takes place! Yes, I said PRIZES. The joint council purchases tens of thousands of dollars in merchandise from refrigerators, to Televisions, to microwaves, to phones, to playstations,to video game sets, to lawn mowers, to sporting goods, to electronics, to household appliances, to furniture..etc etc IS GIVEN AWAY IN A DRAWING. Union dues pay for this merchandise of course, and members can buy extra tickets for the drawing for $1. I had a serious problem with this policy when I first experienced it. The local buys tickets for each officer. Agents and staff must buy their own tickets. I won a playstation2, a lawn mower and a boombox, in my first attendance. I donated all three items to my local boys club. I dont support things like this, but its been a practice for decades. Perks of the job. Some of you may think this sucks, and some may agree with it, but its the nature of the business. Nobody is going to stop the practice. Yes, Vegas Conferences are basically play time, but at the end of the day, The teamsters are supporting the local teamsters (hotel workers) by keeping the hotel ( BALLYS) filled to the brim. There are many things like this that happen in the union business, and they will always happen. Its all legal, and in some respects wasteful, but bringing that many people together is good for the brotherhood. Hoffa didnt create this climate, and we cant hold him responsbible for it. I just wanted you to know something really "inside". Peace. [/QUOTE]
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