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Why are some UPS employees members of two unions? I'm confused!
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<blockquote data-quote="Bill" data-source="post: 163080" data-attributes="member: 5483"><p>Raceanoncr, you are missing the point. It is not the fact that this BA is working a second job, but the fact that we are not allowed to do anything else to offset any work outside of UPS. If you went to the link, you would have seen a picture of this BA, his history and his title. Everyone but you know that these people get paid, albeit not much, for the time they spend fulfilling their job. I have answered every question that you put out there, but you are never satisfied. </p><p>For the last time, I will explain to you and the people out there that don't quite get it. Let's take two entities. One is established for many years (Teamsters), and the other (APWA) is just starting out with no experience. The established entity has a track record, but has no plans or solutions to improve its current quandary. It can remain at its status quo or keep getting worse due to its obligations. In other words, there is no way out of the predicament that they are in. Along comes a new entity with a plan to remedy the problem. Whether it works or not is not the issue. There is a chance to correct the current situation (pension), whereas by staying the course, the situation is bleak and could only get worse. Isn't it better to make a change, hope for the best, than to stay idle and watch your pension and medical benefits go down the drain? By the way, I believe that after looking at the numbers, the plan under the APWA is feasible. Let me know if you would like me to explain the numbers game to you.</p><p>I am not calling you or anyone else names; I am only trying to enlighten you, but that requires that you keep an open mind.</p><p>One last thing. My thread started about two months ago titled "Are the Teamsters really working for you" has not produced one valid reason to stay with the Teamsters. Why don't you or anyone else out there give me one valid reason that is intellectually thought out? All you do is twist things around and put down the APWA, but you still haven't answered my question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bill, post: 163080, member: 5483"] Raceanoncr, you are missing the point. It is not the fact that this BA is working a second job, but the fact that we are not allowed to do anything else to offset any work outside of UPS. If you went to the link, you would have seen a picture of this BA, his history and his title. Everyone but you know that these people get paid, albeit not much, for the time they spend fulfilling their job. I have answered every question that you put out there, but you are never satisfied. For the last time, I will explain to you and the people out there that don't quite get it. Let's take two entities. One is established for many years (Teamsters), and the other (APWA) is just starting out with no experience. The established entity has a track record, but has no plans or solutions to improve its current quandary. It can remain at its status quo or keep getting worse due to its obligations. In other words, there is no way out of the predicament that they are in. Along comes a new entity with a plan to remedy the problem. Whether it works or not is not the issue. There is a chance to correct the current situation (pension), whereas by staying the course, the situation is bleak and could only get worse. Isn't it better to make a change, hope for the best, than to stay idle and watch your pension and medical benefits go down the drain? By the way, I believe that after looking at the numbers, the plan under the APWA is feasible. Let me know if you would like me to explain the numbers game to you. I am not calling you or anyone else names; I am only trying to enlighten you, but that requires that you keep an open mind. One last thing. My thread started about two months ago titled "Are the Teamsters really working for you" has not produced one valid reason to stay with the Teamsters. Why don't you or anyone else out there give me one valid reason that is intellectually thought out? All you do is twist things around and put down the APWA, but you still haven't answered my question. [/QUOTE]
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