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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1060997" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Brother Brown, yes, most of the founders were "Deist" with the exception of John Jay who was a christian, and PAINE, who followed NO RELIGION.</p><p></p><p>From Founder Paine:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"The New Testament, they tell us, is founded upon the prophecies of the Old; if so, it must follow the fate of </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">its foundation.''</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"We do not admit the authority of the church with respect to its pretended infallibility, its </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">manufactured miracles, its setting itself up to forgive sins. It was by propagating that belief and supporting it with fire that she kept up her </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">temporal power."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; <span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>and for my own part, I disbelieve them all</strong></span>."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."</span>[/FONT]</p><p></p><p>Thomas Paine wrote many things and hated christianity in all forms. When he went to france, he was vocal about hating religion and participated in anti goverment movements until he was imprisoned. He was freed after intervention from another founder and returned to the USA.</p><p></p><p>He died in the USA and no church would host his funeral. He was buried under a tree on his rance attended by less than 5 people. Later, his bones were dug up by an englishman and returned to england where he was to be given a true burial. His bones were subsequently lost.</p><p></p><p>He did not subscribe to the deist methodology but respect it.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1060997, member: 17969"] Brother Brown, yes, most of the founders were "Deist" with the exception of John Jay who was a christian, and PAINE, who followed NO RELIGION. From Founder Paine: [SIZE=3]"The New Testament, they tell us, is founded upon the prophecies of the Old; if so, it must follow the fate of its foundation.''[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"We do not admit the authority of the church with respect to its pretended infallibility, its manufactured miracles, its setting itself up to forgive sins. It was by propagating that belief and supporting it with fire that she kept up her temporal power."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; [SIZE=5][B]and for my own part, I disbelieve them all[/B][/SIZE]."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar."[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." "The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."[/SIZE][/FONT] Thomas Paine wrote many things and hated christianity in all forms. When he went to france, he was vocal about hating religion and participated in anti goverment movements until he was imprisoned. He was freed after intervention from another founder and returned to the USA. He died in the USA and no church would host his funeral. He was buried under a tree on his rance attended by less than 5 people. Later, his bones were dug up by an englishman and returned to england where he was to be given a true burial. His bones were subsequently lost. He did not subscribe to the deist methodology but respect it. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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