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<blockquote data-quote="toonertoo" data-source="post: 196033" data-attributes="member: 1944"><p>Oh where to start. </p><p>First off my radio gets one station, the local one. So I have no choice, but it gives me a chance to hear both sides. Which is good, keeps me assured that even after the bushwhacking I hear all day, at the end of it, I know I think right. </p><p>The comparison to the tornado is because it has turned out, it was a lie, that there was no National guard available. In fact there was more than enough. But certain people chose to use the death of Kansans, as a chance to bash the president, something like his polls are so low who could resist. The constituents should boot her out.</p><p>Woe is me I cannot enlist, I am too old. but I have a son proudly serving for his family and his country. and he loves his boss. His pay is better, and his advancement has been swift. He is a lifer. My stepson served two tours. So that takes care of that statement. And I had a brother who is now gone, who served in Vietnam, and did as his country asked when it was a draft army. That is when it was the poor and the minority and the kids who either had to go to jail or go to the army to get straightened out. Now it is all volunteer, and to say that they are from working class and poor democratic families is so bogus, about as bad as Kerry saying they "get stuck in Iraq" My son was/is certifiably on paper one on the most intelligent people in his class in America. ( I still sometimes wonder if I got the wrong baby from the nursery) He could have gone anywhere to college. Since he was 12 he wanted to join the military. I was against it. I finally agreed to sign him up early, so he could choose his path. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Im not a big debater but it has been a fact talked about on all talk shows and materials I have read, that our intelligence went to next to nothing before 9/11. All of a sudden we thought well maybe we did need it. Yes I guess we did. </p><p>AS far as terrorist rings, do you think any station tells us about all of them?. I would hope not. </p><p>Actually I think more should be done in our homeland to make our streets safer. But the fact remains, based on intelligence agreed on by almost all of both parties we went to Iraq. And our military is there, and now is not the time to play power games with the president on getting them what they need. Our Congress needs to work til they are done, like we do, and quit taking vacations, go to their sessions and briefings, since that is why we pay them and they are paid VERY WELL. If I got stuff to do at home I dont go on vacation and neither should they. I guess thats where the Iraqis got that idea, Heh?</p><p> </p><p>As for bums and World War ll I was making a statement that it is <strong>NOT</strong> the governments job to take care of us, to provide us housing, to pay our bills, but they have made it their baby, to suck all of our money away. So we have no time to band together and discuss issues, They want us so backed up with time spent at work, so we can give more and more of it to them. That we are too uninterested to notice what is going on. Back then in the good ole days, you took care of yourself or you died trying. The social programs have made it so easy to raise generations after generations of people who never discuss carreers at the dinner table. And this will be the demise of the USA. </p><p> </p><p>Back in the Clinton era I did as my parents told me to. I voted democrat, Never knowing why, just doing as I was told, since the Democrats care about the people. Republicans Bad. There are many, many people like that on both sides, who just vote as their parents did, or because their teacher says so. And do not think for themselves. Im embarrassed to admit I was one of those. Now I wonder if they know why they were always dirt poor. The mindset was wrong and they didnt understand. I made that change on my own. So nobody died under Bill Clinton needlessly? </p><p>Thanks for the discussion, Im always open to things which could change my mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toonertoo, post: 196033, member: 1944"] Oh where to start. First off my radio gets one station, the local one. So I have no choice, but it gives me a chance to hear both sides. Which is good, keeps me assured that even after the bushwhacking I hear all day, at the end of it, I know I think right. The comparison to the tornado is because it has turned out, it was a lie, that there was no National guard available. In fact there was more than enough. But certain people chose to use the death of Kansans, as a chance to bash the president, something like his polls are so low who could resist. The constituents should boot her out. Woe is me I cannot enlist, I am too old. but I have a son proudly serving for his family and his country. and he loves his boss. His pay is better, and his advancement has been swift. He is a lifer. My stepson served two tours. So that takes care of that statement. And I had a brother who is now gone, who served in Vietnam, and did as his country asked when it was a draft army. That is when it was the poor and the minority and the kids who either had to go to jail or go to the army to get straightened out. Now it is all volunteer, and to say that they are from working class and poor democratic families is so bogus, about as bad as Kerry saying they "get stuck in Iraq" My son was/is certifiably on paper one on the most intelligent people in his class in America. ( I still sometimes wonder if I got the wrong baby from the nursery) He could have gone anywhere to college. Since he was 12 he wanted to join the military. I was against it. I finally agreed to sign him up early, so he could choose his path. Im not a big debater but it has been a fact talked about on all talk shows and materials I have read, that our intelligence went to next to nothing before 9/11. All of a sudden we thought well maybe we did need it. Yes I guess we did. AS far as terrorist rings, do you think any station tells us about all of them?. I would hope not. Actually I think more should be done in our homeland to make our streets safer. But the fact remains, based on intelligence agreed on by almost all of both parties we went to Iraq. And our military is there, and now is not the time to play power games with the president on getting them what they need. Our Congress needs to work til they are done, like we do, and quit taking vacations, go to their sessions and briefings, since that is why we pay them and they are paid VERY WELL. If I got stuff to do at home I dont go on vacation and neither should they. I guess thats where the Iraqis got that idea, Heh? As for bums and World War ll I was making a statement that it is [B]NOT[/B] the governments job to take care of us, to provide us housing, to pay our bills, but they have made it their baby, to suck all of our money away. So we have no time to band together and discuss issues, They want us so backed up with time spent at work, so we can give more and more of it to them. That we are too uninterested to notice what is going on. Back then in the good ole days, you took care of yourself or you died trying. The social programs have made it so easy to raise generations after generations of people who never discuss carreers at the dinner table. And this will be the demise of the USA. Back in the Clinton era I did as my parents told me to. I voted democrat, Never knowing why, just doing as I was told, since the Democrats care about the people. Republicans Bad. There are many, many people like that on both sides, who just vote as their parents did, or because their teacher says so. And do not think for themselves. Im embarrassed to admit I was one of those. Now I wonder if they know why they were always dirt poor. The mindset was wrong and they didnt understand. I made that change on my own. So nobody died under Bill Clinton needlessly? Thanks for the discussion, Im always open to things which could change my mind. [/QUOTE]
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