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<blockquote data-quote="twoweeled" data-source="post: 3347452" data-attributes="member: 27108"><p>In my case, both. Mainly when a BA was present. Also started happening with Stewards toward the last few years. I don't think the Stewards had the (unspoken) authority in many years past? But it seems some locals were trying to cut back on workload along with cutting back on the number of BA's on the payrolls (my guess). Stewards started making the deals/decisions with management (with grievances) much more often. Many years past, there have been agreements reached between a stewart and management on smaller issues. Most times the driver was present and in on the agreement. Very transparent. Not now! </p><p></p><p>The discharges were "a clear violation" from the perspective of management. I'm not sure how to answer that one. I find it difficult to believe you never felt the climate in the air. Maybe sometimes change from trivial to very serious and vice versa. </p><p>I've never met you, and I'm feeling you've been in a few of these meetings yourself. Am I psychic? </p><p>Sometimes it was a weak case to begin with. Other times no. When the the Labor manager is there, of course it's more serious, generally speaking. The questions ask generally show where his going, but some of these manager are real good at beating around the bush attempting to mask where they are really going. But at times the labor manager will be there just to put the scare in you. Sometimes the deal is "somewhat" reached before you enter, if the majority of facts are known and they really don't want to fire you, but scare you. Other times they'll decide what your fate will be, after you've divulged enough facts for the manager to estimate the seriousness of your acts. So many variables. </p><p>But there are definitely times when you know, The decisions have already been made. You don't have to go with their decisions, but they generally feel they are being fair in what they've decided (accurate or not). You wanna rock that boat, it could get a bit more personal. </p><p>Undoubtedly, all cases are not equal and you do not always get a feeling. More often than not, it's just the normal steps. Blah blah blah blah. Everyone does what they have to do, adios out the door!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="twoweeled, post: 3347452, member: 27108"] In my case, both. Mainly when a BA was present. Also started happening with Stewards toward the last few years. I don't think the Stewards had the (unspoken) authority in many years past? But it seems some locals were trying to cut back on workload along with cutting back on the number of BA's on the payrolls (my guess). Stewards started making the deals/decisions with management (with grievances) much more often. Many years past, there have been agreements reached between a stewart and management on smaller issues. Most times the driver was present and in on the agreement. Very transparent. Not now! The discharges were "a clear violation" from the perspective of management. I'm not sure how to answer that one. I find it difficult to believe you never felt the climate in the air. Maybe sometimes change from trivial to very serious and vice versa. I've never met you, and I'm feeling you've been in a few of these meetings yourself. Am I psychic? Sometimes it was a weak case to begin with. Other times no. When the the Labor manager is there, of course it's more serious, generally speaking. The questions ask generally show where his going, but some of these manager are real good at beating around the bush attempting to mask where they are really going. But at times the labor manager will be there just to put the scare in you. Sometimes the deal is "somewhat" reached before you enter, if the majority of facts are known and they really don't want to fire you, but scare you. Other times they'll decide what your fate will be, after you've divulged enough facts for the manager to estimate the seriousness of your acts. So many variables. But there are definitely times when you know, The decisions have already been made. You don't have to go with their decisions, but they generally feel they are being fair in what they've decided (accurate or not). You wanna rock that boat, it could get a bit more personal. Undoubtedly, all cases are not equal and you do not always get a feeling. More often than not, it's just the normal steps. Blah blah blah blah. Everyone does what they have to do, adios out the door! [/QUOTE]
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