Will UPS Bend Hoffa Over like in 2013?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by I H8 TRUMP!!!, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. I H8 TRUMP!!!

    I H8 TRUMP!!! Active Member

    Hoffa and his new Package Director Denis T dropped the ball when they allowed UPS to implement the 70 hour work week this December.

    In 2013 Hoffa, Ken H and Sean O got bent over when they allowed the company to kick off mwmbers from superior healthcare funds and into Teamcare.

    So bad was the current contract that over 70% of UPSers voted against Hoffa.

    With Teamsters United and TDU leading the Vote No Movement and now Sean O jumping on the bandwagon what will Hoffa and Denis T pull?
  2. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny

    They will ignore all the noise. Then give UPS most of what they want. Plus a little spending money for a job well done.
  3. BigBrown87

    BigBrown87 If it’s brown, it’s going down

    They will recieve a NO vote and complain on how it’s a good contract. Then it will come down to the wire and UPS will give us half of what we are asking, then it is up to us to vote NO again and be willing to strike if necessary. Hoffa did hear us this last election whether he chooses to listen will determine how many times he has to go back to the negotiating table.
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  4. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Just curious on how you got 70%? I didn’t know elections were broken down by barn. Thougt it was anonymous.
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Ballots are anonymous but voting results are broken down by facility.

    (We are not farmers—-farmers work in barns—-we work in centers/hubs)
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  6. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Votes are broken down by local. My local oversees 35 companies besides UPS. You work in a barn. It’s like lipstick on a pig. How did they get 70%?
  7. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

  8. Yolo

    Yolo Member

  9. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Who will be president of our international in 4 years?
  10. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    It’s like wrestling it’s fixed. They will travel around to fancy resorts and have a good time. It’s all a show we’re paying for. It’s a done deal already and they drag it out for more vacation time. Anyone that don’t think we’re going to get screwed is naive.Im doing 2 to 3 Times the Work I did when I started and it’s just getting worse everyday
  11. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    Fred or Sean if they’re smart and team up.
  12. burrheadd

    burrheadd Esquire

    Sounds like you need to slow down
  13. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Im sorry to tell you but that’s nobody’s fault but your own.
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  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    How soon.... will you sign the 9.5 list ?
  15. Gimme Danger

    Gimme Danger Active Member

    35 companies besides UPS? More like 100+ in 251. 70 contracts is probably more accurate when you lump together the master construction companies.

    I believe the computer software used at the vote count can determine what number of members voted from a particular workplace by the workplace IBT code. But once the envelopes are opened, it's any one's guess how members voted, other than the totals.
    I'm guessing that an estimate was made based on vote results in Locals with UPS, and experience from TU campaigning.
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  16. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    Been on it for years
  17. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    I’m not going fast believe me I’m just working longer hours and delivering 70 plus pound pkgs instead of much smaller lighter boxes years ago.
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  18. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    Please remember not all work is physical.The mental work is harder for me. I can’t see addresses on the boxes or houses good anymore.With Orion I feel like a swing driver some days. Yes I’m old and it’s almost over I don’t feel bad for myself I feel bad for people that have a long time to go.I don’t care about the contact for me I’ll be gone. I care about it for the people I’m leaving behind
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  19. john chesney

    john chesney Active Member

    3 days a week very close to 9.5 and 2 others over. Yes I’ve filed grievances and yes I’ve won. Yes I filed for using the other the other 2 days as punishment. Yes I’ve filled with Osha,EEOC and Dol. I’m definitely am a fighter but does it have to be this way?
  20. Ms.PacMan

    Ms.PacMan Well-Known Member

    Only you and Olroadbeech work in a barn. Upsers work in centers.
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