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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 866256" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p>Yea, in a way I am saying just that. There is no right granted in the Constitution of the Untied States of America. I'm not ,despite how it comes across, anti-union but on the other hand I'm not pro-union either. I don't have a problem with unions that use common sense and what is actually best for the members they are supposed to be protecting from dishonest and greedy companies. I shutter at the thought of working for UPS without a union, not so much to do with pay scale as with employee abuse(like the teamsters are helping with that much). The workers are not the only element in the equation nor are the unions or the employers. Actually I'm in favor of collective bargaining as long as there is real bargaining involved using a common sense approach. The employer should have as many rights as the employees in regards to pay and benefits. Do you think it is a good idea to demand higher wages and benefits when a company is operating in the red? Is that common sense? Does that properly address the issues at hand? </p><p></p><p></p><p>side note:</p><p>Actually Mrs. Roosevelt was one of 9 people that drafted the document, not exactly the author. But that is really unimportant.</p><p></p><p> As far as the ad hominem attack, you are the one that brought forth the UDOHR as if it was relevant to the discussion .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 866256, member: 13254"] Yea, in a way I am saying just that. There is no right granted in the Constitution of the Untied States of America. I'm not ,despite how it comes across, anti-union but on the other hand I'm not pro-union either. I don't have a problem with unions that use common sense and what is actually best for the members they are supposed to be protecting from dishonest and greedy companies. I shutter at the thought of working for UPS without a union, not so much to do with pay scale as with employee abuse(like the teamsters are helping with that much). The workers are not the only element in the equation nor are the unions or the employers. Actually I'm in favor of collective bargaining as long as there is real bargaining involved using a common sense approach. The employer should have as many rights as the employees in regards to pay and benefits. Do you think it is a good idea to demand higher wages and benefits when a company is operating in the red? Is that common sense? Does that properly address the issues at hand? side note: Actually Mrs. Roosevelt was one of 9 people that drafted the document, not exactly the author. But that is really unimportant. As far as the ad hominem attack, you are the one that brought forth the UDOHR as if it was relevant to the discussion . [/QUOTE]
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