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<blockquote data-quote="AKCoverMan" data-source="post: 1129315" data-attributes="member: 17867"><p>If "an agreement has been reached" all that language should be done. Or it should have been announced as "an agreement in principle" meaning they aren't done with all the details.</p><p></p><p>And I am not a "brown cafe troll" unable to read or understand contract language. I am a full time professional driver and I have plenty invested in this contract. </p><p></p><p>On the one hand I feel that UPS is a highly profitable company and the bulk of that comes via the hard work, knolwedge, and skill of ALL the unionized work force. Since I am a driver I am of course biased to our work group.. I like to say "Everyday we take their fubared plan and turn it into a highly profitable operation". So I want us to get a big slice of the pie. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand I recognize that compared to alot of other careers we DO get a big slice of the pie so anything that maintains our great pay and benefits, while still sustating company profits is a win. Of course I want as much as I can get, who dosen't? But getting this done without a real strike threat is a good thing. Believe me we WANT a company in a very profitable position when contract time rolls around.</p><p></p><p>The biggest thing I want to see in this contract is not for me. It's for the part timers. When I get a crappy load it's hard for me to blame the part time preloader who is getting $9.50/hr and no bennies for a year. We go thru a lot of them and the quality shows. (The full time preloader are by and large, fabulous. But they are way more invested in their job.)</p><p></p><p>In my past life I was a manager for American Express in the travel agency division. I never made close to the money I make as a UPS driver, nor had anything close to the benefits we have. And AMEX is a Dow30 company they certainly had the deep pockets.</p><p></p><p>I'll be waiting for the actual contract before I decide how to vote.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AKCoverMan, post: 1129315, member: 17867"] If "an agreement has been reached" all that language should be done. Or it should have been announced as "an agreement in principle" meaning they aren't done with all the details. And I am not a "brown cafe troll" unable to read or understand contract language. I am a full time professional driver and I have plenty invested in this contract. On the one hand I feel that UPS is a highly profitable company and the bulk of that comes via the hard work, knolwedge, and skill of ALL the unionized work force. Since I am a driver I am of course biased to our work group.. I like to say "Everyday we take their fubared plan and turn it into a highly profitable operation". So I want us to get a big slice of the pie. On the other hand I recognize that compared to alot of other careers we DO get a big slice of the pie so anything that maintains our great pay and benefits, while still sustating company profits is a win. Of course I want as much as I can get, who dosen't? But getting this done without a real strike threat is a good thing. Believe me we WANT a company in a very profitable position when contract time rolls around. The biggest thing I want to see in this contract is not for me. It's for the part timers. When I get a crappy load it's hard for me to blame the part time preloader who is getting $9.50/hr and no bennies for a year. We go thru a lot of them and the quality shows. (The full time preloader are by and large, fabulous. But they are way more invested in their job.) In my past life I was a manager for American Express in the travel agency division. I never made close to the money I make as a UPS driver, nor had anything close to the benefits we have. And AMEX is a Dow30 company they certainly had the deep pockets. I'll be waiting for the actual contract before I decide how to vote. [/QUOTE]
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