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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 522106" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>On so many levels we need transparency and you are correct about this not being a left/right issue. Some voices of interest might be well served on this issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html" target="_blank">Waterboarding Used to Be a Crime</a></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>An then there's Gene Healy, VP of the Cato Institute which is no bastion of left wing liberalism by any stretch.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/GeneHealy/Of-Course-It-Was-Torture-43285722.html" target="_blank">Of Course It Was Torture</a></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>And then the <a href="http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/854-doj-prosecuted-texas-sheriff-in-1983-for-waterboarding-prisoners.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Reagan Adminstration</span> </a>prosecuted a sheriff who used waterboarding.</p><p></p><p>Under the Reagan adminstration, we not only signed but lead an international effort to ban torture and cruel treatment and here is the <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1079/is_n2137_v88/ai_6742034/?tag=content;col1" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">transmittal</span></a> with Reagan's own words in full support of this international ban. Article 1, sec. 1 reads as follows:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But let's just cut to the chase, why the need for waterboarding and especially in excess? Protect America from another atack? Well on the face of it, I'd tend to agree with that thinking or at least it would be easy to convince most common sense thinking people that was the case. But maybe there is another darker side to this whole matter and why such excesses were taken.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090424_torture_used_to_link_saddam_with_9_11/" target="_blank">Torture Was Used to Try to Link Saddam With 9/11</a></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p>How Interesting!</p><p></p><p>Lastly, here's Glenn Greenwald and one of his <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/24/democrats/index.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">latest missles</span> </a>on the subject.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 522106, member: 2189"] On so many levels we need transparency and you are correct about this not being a left/right issue. Some voices of interest might be well served on this issue. [B][SIZE=2][COLOR=red][URL='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html']Waterboarding Used to Be a Crime[/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] An then there's Gene Healy, VP of the Cato Institute which is no bastion of left wing liberalism by any stretch. [B][SIZE=2][COLOR=red][URL='http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/GeneHealy/Of-Course-It-Was-Torture-43285722.html']Of Course It Was Torture[/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] And then the [URL='http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/854-doj-prosecuted-texas-sheriff-in-1983-for-waterboarding-prisoners.html'][COLOR=red]Reagan Adminstration[/COLOR] [/URL]prosecuted a sheriff who used waterboarding. Under the Reagan adminstration, we not only signed but lead an international effort to ban torture and cruel treatment and here is the [URL='http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1079/is_n2137_v88/ai_6742034/?tag=content;col1'][COLOR=red]transmittal[/COLOR][/URL] with Reagan's own words in full support of this international ban. Article 1, sec. 1 reads as follows: But let's just cut to the chase, why the need for waterboarding and especially in excess? Protect America from another atack? Well on the face of it, I'd tend to agree with that thinking or at least it would be easy to convince most common sense thinking people that was the case. But maybe there is another darker side to this whole matter and why such excesses were taken. [B][SIZE=2][COLOR=red][URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090424_torture_used_to_link_saddam_with_9_11/']Torture Was Used to Try to Link Saddam With 9/11[/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] How Interesting! Lastly, here's Glenn Greenwald and one of his [URL='http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/24/democrats/index.html'][COLOR=red]latest missles[/COLOR] [/URL]on the subject. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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