Air runs..guaranteed "x" hours or hrs worked paid

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by fres431, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    I was called for a air run today, my question is there a guarantee x hours or is it hours worked hours paid? I don't see anything in the contract that gives you x guarantee hours.
     
  2. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    Let me clarify I am a part timer and it's not a full time air run.
     
  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    If you are a PT package handler who is also air exception/Saturday Air driver qualified you do not have any guarantee hours when called in to do air exception work. I have been called in to deliver a NDA Saver across the street. Worked 20 minutes and went home. You still have your 3 1/2 hour guarantee on your normal PT sort.
     
  4. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    So how long did you work?
     
  5. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    I passed on it I didn't want to drive 20mins for 20mins of work it's not deliveries it's PU from ups stores and meet points
     
  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Don't blame you. Sometimes 20 minutes of work can lead to a couple hours of work. The contract says "by seniority to who is present and qualified."
     
  7. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    Okay let me out this out there ..I run to ups store do pick ups and pick up ground from ups store and or pick up a ground from a "off the street customer" then all work is to be paid at ground rate correct?
     
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    UPS Store----yes.

    Customer hands you pkg ----no.
     
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    By the contract, yes. You have to be careful about how hard you push that issue. How long have you been employed, where are you in seniority, how valuable are you to the center and hub? If you are a super stud who does it all then yeah. If you are in your first year and still learning, may want to let it go until you can be that super stud.
     
  10. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    You shouldn't take ground from a customer if you're an air driver. Personally I would call a sup and see what they wanted me to do.
     
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Contractually I would agree. But how do you explain to a customer who walks up to a brown truck driven by a guy in a brown uniform "that's not my job". Easier to take the package and say thank you. If it is a business I always tell the customer the regular driver will be by later for pick ups.
     
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    FedEx seems to have no problem doing it. Lol
     
  13. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    You can shuttle ground and not receive ground pay, however if you deliver a ground you receive ground pay. At least that is the deal the union/UPS hands drivers around here.

    Air exception drivers are hours worked, unless you are FT.
     
  14. cb1969

    cb1969 Member

    Article 40 gives 3 hour daily guarantee
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    That's for work at an air ramp.
     
  16. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    Playing hooky today?
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Nope---posting while driving.
     
  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Air exception drivers have no guarantee and are only paid for the time working. Art. 40 (h) paragraph (3).
     
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    By definition Air Exception Drivers are PT. Sometimes the boss will have us deliver a few ground packages so we will receive top pay. Especially for the Air Drivers who are not at top rate yet.
     
  20. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    All day?

    Sweet route.

    Now, hang up and drive!