Cage car weight limit

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Achilles, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Achilles

    Achilles New Member

    Just curious, what would it take to exceed the weight limit of a non-cdl UPS cage car? We had a huge shipment of hardback textbooks. Each box ranged from 30 to 50 lbs with between 600-875 pcs. One driver said the vehicle looked overloaded, and it was more difficult to drive. I could only do about 45-50mph on the freeway and took quite a bit of space to slow down. Was I even close to max weight and how would I know? Is it the pre-loads responsibility to not exceed weight limits? Just curious, was I a little concerned over nothing?
  2. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    It's drivers responsibility
  3. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    Good luck with that.

    Do you think there's a reason our company doesn't have scales on property and discourages use of nearby scales?
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  4. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    As long as you can safely stop it's not loaded heavily enough. Need more books!!!
  5. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Helps Drivers avoid speeding tickets!
  6. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    An older driver the other day told me that anything over 50 lbs wasn't allowed in package cars back in the day. Being young sucks.
  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    When I started on the preload the max weight limit was 50 lbs. Before that the weight limit was 35 lbs. UPS is a small package delivery company not a fright company. Anything over 50 lbs should go to UPS Freight.
  8. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    What's a Cage Car?
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  9. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Even at the bottom of the weight range you're talking 18,000 pounds. You sure you have the numbers right? That's a ton of weight for anything that doesn't have air brakes.
  10. Oak

    Oak Active Member

    30,000 GVWR is pretty common without air brakes. Many 2 ton trucks have a 30,000 rear axle and have hydraulic brakes. Chevrolet Kodiak, GMC Topkick, for example.

    That said, I doubt very many package cars have a GVWR of 18,000. I'm actually surprised with a DOT number there isn't a GVWR posted on the cars.
  11. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Interesting. I thought 18,000 GVWR was the base for the most part. Another thing I learned today!

    But I do agree, 18,000 seems a little much for any package car.
  12. Oak

    Oak Active Member

    A one ton and single axle, dual wheel gooseneck can easily be licensed for 24k.
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    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    22K for P12s. I would see the 24 footers routinely come in with smoke rolling off the front brakes.

    1BROWNWRENCH Amatuer Malthusian

    At least now (finally, after years and years) we are officially allowed to keep 100 PSI in the tires.
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Did he bother to tell you that our weight limit on packages used to be 50 lbs, hence the reason?
  16. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    There is. On mine there is a metal tag affixed to the driver side door pillar. Most package cars have a GVWR of about 15,000 lbs, subtract 10,000lbs from that to account for the weight of the car itself plus driver and fuel, so you are left with about 5,000 pounds of cargo that can safely be loaded into the car.
  17. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    To the OP; if we take the low end of the figures you posted (600 pieces@30 lbs each) that comes to 18,000 lbs which is over 3 times the weight that can legally be loaded into a package car.
  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    The vehicle GVWR is also on the vehicle registration.
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Is that over or under inflating them? Wouldn't having them under inflated prematurely wear the tire?
  20. Achilles

    Achilles New Member

    So what we call a cage car is a 24footer. It looks like its GVWR is 24k ( i will check the registration today) So lets say it was loaded with 650 pcs at 40lbs a piece thats puts it at 26,000 lbs. So it was overloaded ? And if it was what type of responsibility do I have as a driver? I have no way of knowing the weights of the boxes until they are un-loaded. Whats scary is that they were going to load another 200 into the 24 footer until I asked about how much weight it can handle. They had no idea so they put the rest in a p-1