Center manager wants me to run scratch or 30 in the box

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by ND country driver, May 11, 2016.

  1. ND country driver

    ND country driver New Member

    On the 9.5 list. Had 5 ride along in 3 weeks. When supervisor rides with doesn't it seem you get better time allowance. Is it because 20 min automatic subtracted from the total time for communication (as they called it). Management denied it. Got warning letter for production(25 over). Can't get much trouble over this? Right? Union doesn't recognize their # cause UPS can change the # to their pleasing?
    Last edited: May 11, 2016
  2. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    We do not. Just keep working safe and document everything. On calls , meet points , load quality etc.
  3. Edd Orion

    Edd Orion Member

    File a harassment grievance
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  4. Call the harassment hotline.
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  5. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Work safe.

    File for over 9.5's.

    Do your best.

    Get paid.
  6. Big Arrow Down...D

    Big Arrow Down...D Leave the gun,take the cannoli

    The inbox is full...

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  7. It worked for me.

    CHALLY9TX Active Member

    5 rides in 3 weeks is definitely harassment
  9. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Please tell us you aren't a vet 20 year driver!!!
  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Don't let these clowns game you...stick up for yourself man....(or
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  11. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Hooked on phonics did it again!!
  12. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    you could spend a month reading threads on harassment and what to do about it on these forums.

    do some reading.
  13. Gotout

    Gotout New Member

    5 rides in 3 weeks is over-supervision and a violation of article 37.
    Adding "communication time" to your ojs ride will likely invalidate the ride in the eyes of a panel. Be sure to have a steward put in a formal request for the "GTS edit log with original and changes" for every day they ride with you. This will show them adding various codes to you ripe card that will impact your planned day.
    Discipline for priduction doesn't hold up at a panel, but discipline for methods infractions does. If you look at your Diad after stopping, but before getting out of your seat, here's a WL for not following the "stop car routine" method. If you look after your Diad after getting back to the car, here's a WL for "move out without delay". The up side is that most on-cars these days don't have the methods knowledge to build a case against you like that.
    The next thing they will do is come after you of safety, which is easier.
    I agree on the suggestions about the 9.5 list and 8 hour requests. File on everything. When your center manager pulls you aside and asks why your filing all the grievances, tell him you really just want to be left alone. He has neither the time or energy to deal with you.

    But why listen to me, I GotOut
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    This is why I am an advocate of sitting down and discussing the situation before putting pen to paper.
  15. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Actually Dave, that is the 1st step in the grievance procedure.

    After that, file at will.
  16. jr32bad

    jr32bad Member

    1 (800) 220-4126.
  17. BostonBo

    BostonBo Member

    I think they can only give you one 3 day OJS ride a year. File a grievance on additional rides.
  18. Gotout

    Gotout New Member

    The is contractually correct. You can file, but there is no monetary repercussion for the company. It is helpful if you are painting a bigger picture and ensuring a good defense at a panel.