Drivers ever going to start driving these as a norm?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Brav989, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Brav989

    Brav989 New Member

  2. xkingx

    xkingx Member

    hope not..that would suck...unless they added more time ..which I would highly doubt..even driving vans when just running air sucks
  3. Reddriver

    Reddriver New Member

    There is only one route in my center that uses this type of truck. I dont really mind it because it is used on a very rural route with only about 120 stops. It is hard to be quick working out of it but its better than the rental trucks durring peak!
  4. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    Question: Where is that, I know it's somewhere in NYC
  5. edd_tv

    edd_tv Cardboard picker upper

    where do you put all the avon?
    or the sleep number beds? lol
  6. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I used to have one but they gave it to another guy that needed more room than his regular sprinter.
  7. Brav989

    Brav989 New Member

    Speaking of stops. What is the (Ballpark number) of stops a driver gets during non peak period per day?
  8. 2Slow

    2Slow Member

    Our trucks keep getting bigger, not smaller. P7 is the smallest thing in the lineup in my center. lots of 10s, 12s and 13s.
  9. Big Babooba

    Big Babooba Well-Known Member

    I don't think so. The Sprinters aren't holding up too well. The mechanics have nothing good to say about them.
  10. Pip

    Pip New Member

    4 years old and I got one of my sprinters that will be cruched in a couple weeks.

    I got 2 2003 sprinters in my fleet. I just got approval for one of them to be crushed, not even going to try to keep it running for peak. It is cheaper to get a rental for the 1.5 months of peak, then it is to try to fix the sprinter. It is sitting mothballed at 190,000 miles on it. The motor and tranny have had it. The body is falling a part. In a way I am happy it is gone. I was spending so much time trying to keep it running I was falling behind on my other cars.

    We got word at the beginning of 07' that any major expenses had to be approved first by corporate. To my knowledge This sprinter is the first to be ADA'd and crushed in my district. my other sprinter is pretty much on borrowed time. Have talked to a couple other mechanics from other buildings and it is a chore to maintain the ones they have, also.

    These sprinters might be ok for the private contractor, But not for UPS applications. There is no way these vehicles will last 20 years, it just isn't cost effective.
  11. VTBrown

    VTBrown Member

    Those are P57's. We have two in our small center.
    They are wonderful to deliver out of as they have a sliding side door as well.
    More comfortable, accelerate faster and climb hills MUCH better then any package car out there.

    Being a P57 the 570 cubic feet compared to the P500's, 500.

    All that being said.....they need to be shipped out for almost all repair work and UPS will not be purchasing anymore as they do not hold up well to the rural pounding.
  12. poozer2000

    poozer2000 New Member

    ah the good old "puddle jumper" we use a lot of these in England mainly for the rural routes ours are made by mercedes, dont really have many major problems with these good solid reliable cars and good to work from although many drivers dont like to drive them, I love mine
  13. packagemanuk

    packagemanuk New Member

    I don't know what came over me, but I took a picture of one of our puddlejumpers a while ago on my dodgy cameraphone.
    I think their classification is P47, but don't quote me.
    We have a mixed fleet of them, a load of P80s and several Merc Sprinters at SOU. The P47s are speed restricted too,
  14. BrownPR215

    BrownPR215 What Can Brown Do To You!

    I used to drive one when I was a part time air driver here in Philly. They are pretty convenient for small loads and they are diesel so they're pretty good on gas. Now that I am full-time I couldn't imagine any full time route using one of these. The door on the side did come in handy though!
  15. outta hours

    outta hours Active Member

  16. pakmule

    pakmule A roller dog for lunch

    Whoever made the decision to put these in the fleet should be force to ride in one during the summer. Down here in the south they are referred to as rolling incinerators.
  17. HazMatMan

    HazMatMan New Member

    I don't think that is NYC. Although the plate says New York. Looks like he illegally parked.
  18. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    yeah, no one illegally parks in NYC :rolleyes:
  19. browniehound

    browniehound Well-Known Member

    When you say 'sprinters' are you talking about the vans we got back in 02 or 03? The sprinter I'm yalking about looks nothing like the pictures above. When I talk about the sprinter, I'm talking about a van, literally.

    These vehicles are totally useless except for a few applications. And if we used these vans striclty for these certain operations, it could save us $$$ in fuel.

    Let's just say they are less efficient than a p5 if we are doing an air run that involves docks and if we need to get to the back of the vehicle to grab packages or bulk.

    But, they come in real handy for airport runs. There are 2 major airports within an hour of my hub. These vans are ideal to make runs to grab EAMS or drop off PM airs. After making the EAM shuttle and the meet with the other drivers, these vans are perfect for doing an air-route that has mostly letters. If UPS can assign these vehicles to these types of operations than they can be a huge $$$ saver in fuel.

    BUT, does the center manager even think of these things? My guess is he doesen,t because there is no accounting for these vehicles where I'm from: its first come first serve.

    If I were the business manager and the fuel expense came from my budget (It does, correct?), I would have strict rules on which runs use these most fuel efficeint vehicles.

    It seems like a no-brainer to me, but my guess is that this is the last thing on my center manager mind. As a shareholder, I hope I'm very wrong.

  20. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member