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You've Got Mail

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bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Hey TOS , can't wait for the big bash that the DNC plans to throw in DC after the elections ?
All the big DNC names will be there to watch their landslide victories unfold .

Oh, I'm sorry .
They didn't rent any spaces this year .
I wonder why ?
Why would they when they have the White House?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
I can't even watch the news.....any news. The speculation predictions on who might win gets old. I'm actually watching the orangutans on the Animal planet....Chin Chin and Donald and others.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator was tragically hit by a car and died.



His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.



"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."



"No problem, just let me in," says the Senator.



"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."



"Really?, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the Senator.



"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."



And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.



The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.



Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.



Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.



They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.



Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.



The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him, "Now it's time to visit heaven...



So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.



"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."



The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."



So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell...



Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above



The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.



"I don't understand," stammers the Senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"



The devil smiles at him and says,


"Yesterday we were campaigning, Today, you voted.."



Vote wisely in November 2014
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
“The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies. [Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (New York: Macmillan, 1966), pp. 1247-1248.]“

Georgetown University Carroll Quigley was also mentor to President Bill Clinton
 

BrownArmy

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I'm still curious:

If voting isn't the solution, what is?

I suppose I can relate to all the arguments against voting, since it really does seem to be a sham, or rather, it's one of the mechanisms that supports the sham which is our Republic.

But in lieu of voting, what's the alternative beyond not-voting. What is the way forward?
 

BrownArmy

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I'll agree with that.

But I'll posit that most people of either or any political persuasion realize on some visceral level that, at the very least, the political process is a complete sham.

Politicians say what they say to get elected, and then, who knows! And the government machine rolls on, mostly to the benefit of corporations, the rich, and the government, in any order you pick.

I'll also posit that, most people, without having done all the research, feel as well that aside from elections (where most people instinctively feel that wool is being pulled over their eyes), that the government in general doesn't serve their best interests.

The next logical step would seem to be to inform the 'low-information voter', as oldngray puts it, or the non-voter (who doesn't not-vote out of protest, but out of sloth) of the inherent ridiculousness of the system and that we need something different on a structural level.

I don't feel like voting in general as a process is the problem, the problem we really only get to vote for the man wearing two different hats.

So if the majority of people realize they're getting screwed, it seems to me it shouldn't be that hard to break out of the 2+2=5 system we're in.

But I've been wrong before.
 
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