Express packages to ground

McFeely

Huge Member
Where did this come from? Is it from FedEx management?
Test market right now or so I’ve heard. Not sure if it’s an Express/Ground co-location or what. Also don’t know if it’s a remote station or a more dense city.

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It will be fine

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Nah just another desperate move that won't work like Response and Estar.
It’s clear this is where the corporation is going. Estar will work fine when there’s hardly any delivery volume in the express network. There won’t be any capex for express delivery operations for the foreseeable future. In very little time there won’t be an option but to make it work with Ground.
 

MAKAVELI

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It’s clear this is where the corporation is going. Estar will work fine when there’s hardly any delivery volume in the express network. There won’t be any capex for express delivery operations for the foreseeable future. In very little time there won’t be an option but to make it work with Ground.
Nothing is clear in this company. These are just test stations in boondocks areas. Unless Ground and it's contractors/ drivers are willing to run a UPS type operation it won't work. To run both on one truck you have to have a real efficient system and dedicated workers to del service. That ain't happening with the contractor model.
 

MAKAVELI

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Haven't seen anything about pu side.

Two locations I know of testing are in the middle of nowhere so yeah that's correct.

They don't tell us much these days.
It's on FB and Reddit. The pu side will be mostly handled by Ground in these locations.
 

Myort

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The company will likely save a lot of $$ doing this in remote locations. I work in a metropolitan area station and we have a few small towns that we service and it takes forever and it’s usually for 5 stops or less. Ground is likely going to these areas with 10 or less stops.
 

bacha29

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Do any of you actually believe that all of these different classes of shipping will be slotted with any degree of accuracy let alone get delivered on time?

You would think that the last thing you would do is to create more classes of shipping then try to accurately assign them to two separate operating divisions organized in a dissimilar manner .

About the only chance it would have of succeeding out on the RD's would be for the contractor to have one or more dedicated trucks doing nothing else but handling the junk coming over from Express . Going to mean a lot of miles between stops barely covering the cost of running him and you'll be lucky if you can do that.
 

thedownhillEXPRESS

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Do any of you actually believe that all of these different classes of shipping will be slotted with any degree of accuracy let alone get delivered on time?

You would think that the last thing you would do is to create more classes of shipping then try to accurately assign them to two separate operating divisions organized in a dissimilar manner .

About the only chance it would have of succeeding out on the RD's would be for the contractor to have one or more dedicated trucks doing nothing else but handling the junk coming over from Express . Going to mean a lot of miles between stops barely covering the cost of running him and you'll be lucky if you can do that.
I’m sure the contractors will scheme up a plan to falsify the crap out of the commit times too. We’ve just become Enron basically.
 

It will be fine

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It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
 

Gone fishin

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It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
Ground has days , not hours to deliver and you still can’t do that. That’s the point
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
Ground’s idea of handling extra freight is to a) throw it into the the nearest reviene, b) stuff it into the nearest dropbox, c) return it to an Express terminal and whine that you’re too understaffed to attempt any of it or d) just don’t show up to work anymore.
 

thedownhillEXPRESS

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It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
Just the amount of current falsification from Ground is well documented in forums and the publics view. DSR signature falsification is rampant as well as ASR. The Ground guy in one of our areas left a pile of ASR firearm boxes (forged signature) outside a dealer that was closed . It’s astonishing. My wife gets signature required wine about once a month and except for one time the drivers have forged our signatures and they just leave it. They don’t know I work for Express and it’s been about 10 different drivers .
 

bacha29

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Just the amount of current falsification from Ground is well documented in forums and the publics view. DSR signature falsification is rampant as well as ASR. The Ground guy in one of our areas left a pile of ASR firearm boxes (forged signature) outside a dealer that was closed . It’s astonishing. My wife gets signature required wine about once a month and except for one time the drivers have forged our signatures and they just leave it. They don’t know I work for Express and it’s been about 10 different drivers .
When you paid the same daily rate whether no matter whether it takes 6 hours or 12 hours anyone is going to try to get done closer to the 6 hours out there. The earlier you get done, the more of the day is left for you.
 

MAKAVELI

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It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
It isn't impossible, UPS does it. But they make triple what a ground driver makes. You are grasping at straws to believe ground drivers will work like UPS drivers for peanuts.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
It’s wild that you Express folk actually believe what you do is so hard that nobody could possibly handle it. They’re boxes with an address on them. Having a few that need to be delivered earlier than the rest each day isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t take a genius to do it. Y’all are grasping at straws to pretend what’s happening is impossible.
Will your drivers make service on packages at each corner of their route, then go back and make service on deferred freight in every corner, with businesses on time, make a 3rd or 4th circuit for pickups on time, and reattempt SR for not at home on first attempt? For what you pay them?

You have no clue what is required of express drivers, or an inkling of how to accomplish it. And keep the majority of the profits for yourself.
 
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