Former UPS Manager running for US Senate

texan

Well-Known Member
David McCormick-David joined United Parcel Service in 1979 and over a 13 year period he ran 9 different business operations. As a training manager he trained over 500 management personnel and 1,000 drivers and loaders. David respects the working people who make our country great.

Besides a point of interest, look at this former UPS Managers economic plan for the US debt on his web site.

The Issues | David McCormick For Senate 2012

 

moreluck

golden ticket member
I hope he makes it. We sure need politicians who know what a 'job' is and have a good work ethic and service brain and not an "entitled" brain
 

curiousbrain

Well-Known Member
This is why I was so high on Cain. We need more business sense in Washington.

It is worth considering, though, that that depends on how one defines "business sense"; running a business does not necessarily translate into a prosperous country.

As an example, consider the pressures that a large business owner is under: strict budget constraints, employee performance, cost-benefit analysis, etc. There may be a place for that in government, but maybe that place is not the Oval Office; cuts to welfare/unemployment, tax breaks for big business, little assistance to people under the poverty line, little to no financial incentive for environmental programs, these are the sort of things that might happen under a President who had some "business sense."

Finally, what if it makes "business sense" to move yet more jobs overseas? Business wise, it is only logical to move production to where it is cheapest - with little regard to quaint concepts like patriotism or national pride.
 
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texan

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It is worth considering, though, that that depends on how one defines "business sense"; running a business does not necessarily translate into a prosperous country.

As an example, consider the pressures that a large business owner is under: strict budget constraints, employee performance, cost-benefit analysis, etc. There may be a place for that in government, but maybe that place is not the Oval Office; cuts to welfare/unemployment, tax breaks for big business, little assistance to people under the poverty line, little to no financial incentive for environmental programs, these are the sort of things that might happen under a President who had some "business sense."

Finally, what if it makes "business sense" to move yet more jobs overseas? Business wise, it is only logical to move production to where it is cheapest - with little regard to quaint concepts like patriotism or national pride.

I am not wrapped around the axle with this gentleman. But so far, I have not heard any good detailed plans for jobs in America
from any one that is running or that is in office currently.

Take time to read this if you have time. It is a plan and has details.

McCormick Jobs Bill 15 Million Jobs for Americans | David McCormick For Senate 2012
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
I agree. We need more pols that realize that government needs to be run like a business.
Aaaaaaaacccckkkkk!!!!!--Bill the Cat. Wall Street was "run like a business". Donald Trump ran businesses (into the ground). "Run like a business" is how UPS is going to get major concessions from the Union in 2013. There's a reason that government and business are not the same thing...or shouldn't be.
 

FracusBrown

Ponies and Planes
Aaaaaaaacccckkkkk!!!!!--Bill the Cat. Wall Street was "run like a business". Donald Trump ran businesses (into the ground). "Run like a business" is how UPS is going to get major concessions from the Union in 2013. There's a reason that government and business are not the same thing...or shouldn't be.

Government is the only organization known to man that can spend more than they have and waste money like theres a never ending supply and still have people think its a good thing.
 

slantnosechevy

Well-Known Member
Government is the only organization known to man that can spend more than they have and waste money like theres a never ending supply and still have people think its a good thing.

And as long as big business and their special interest groups are running it things will remain the same.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Government is the only organization known to man that can spend more than they have and waste money like theres a never ending supply and still have people think its a good thing.

And why do you have a problem with this? I know why I don't. Its because unlike a business, there are other factors to be considered besides "the bottom line". It is a fundamental flaw (almost a hubris) that is perptrated by American business that all of society and all economies should follow it's most excellent lead even though the aims of different bodies do not allign with spreadsheets and bottom lines.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
And why do you have a problem with this? I know why I don't. Its because unlike a business, there are other factors to be considered besides "the bottom line". It is a fundamental flaw (almost a hubris) that is perptrated by American business that all of society and all economies should follow it's most excellent lead even though the aims of different bodies do not allign with spreadsheets and bottom lines.

And they say statists of a various type believe in sustainability as a matter of political ideal. Good to know there still exist those who blow that theory completely out of the water!
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
trying to make the government run like a business is one of the stupidest ideas in the long, sad history of stupid ideas

some of the greatest leaders in history came from within the government bureaucracy, or the military, NOT private industry

Edit:
would you want your Center Manager to be an experienced former-driver or some accounting whiz who never touched a box in his life?
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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trying to make the government run like a business is one of the stupidest ideas in the long, sad history of stupid ideas

some of the greatest leaders in history came from within the government bureaucracy, or the military, NOT private industry....

IMO the last "great leader" was Reagan and even during his term our economy was not nearly as global in nature as it is today. We need someone with a strong business sense to not only lead us out of the recession but to return us to prosperity.
 

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
IMO the last "great leader" was Reagan and even during his term our economy was not nearly as global in nature as it is today. We need someone with a strong business sense to not only lead us out of the recession but to return us to prosperity.

hahahaha

oh Reagan....

if Reagan had ever bothered to read any Marx, he would know that "trickle-down-economics" is a Marxist theory, and also happens to be completely wrong

sure the math supports it, but human psychology =/= math
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
IMO the last "great leader" was Reagan and even during his term our economy was not nearly as global in nature as it is today. We need someone with a strong business sense to not only lead us out of the recession but to return us to prosperity.
Just out of curiosity, do you think that might happen no matter who the president happens to be? Whatever you want to say about them, Geithner, Summers, Obama, and Orzag were anything but crusading against Wall Street (even if they would have deserved it).
 

UnconTROLLed

perfection
The last thing America needs is someone from high in the ranks of big business. Only the establishment would say something so foolish and self serving.
 
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