In your defense of the leader of your cult of personality, since by name I wasn't excluded and the fact this conversation so far is very limited in number (also bubs being plural) I guess I'm lumped into this load of coal. However, I think there in turn may be an equal bit of hypocracy and double standard here on your part.
The President, who by name represents your party, has failed to do nothing in taking down, let's see, how did you put it, "The Patriot act, FISA, and wiretapping created by the Third Reich wing Bush Adm" so to the Bush supporters you are correct but one has to now ask you about the danger of throwing rocks while living in glass houses!
Greenwald
Ted Rall And Don't forget
this.
And then there are these
guys (I doubt you'd find them at Elephant parties) who had the honesty to point this out.
Center for Constitutional Rights
YouTube - Rachel Maddow: Indefinite detention? Shame on you... President Obama
Now that is just the very tip of the "Titanic" iceberg and not a single "RightWing Nut" among them. Your initial point is very valid, no arguement on that point but if you now think you hold a higher ground?
You best think again. A lot of honest folks on both sides and across the middle are waking up to realize that no matter which side you vote in, the same outcome just continues marching onward!
Sorry Diesel, but just because one used car lot has a slick, crooked salesman doesn't mean the lot next door has the opposite. In this case, there really is no real difference.
Maybe you should consider these
10 questions and their answers but then I guess it's just as easy to blow that off as it will be for you to blow of the growing iceberg too. There's always the serenity of the Cult of Personality!