MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Hey, you forgot the ignorant. That's three.
I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism
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Hey, you forgot the ignorant. That's three.
one thing that really interests me about capitalism is whats the most an employer would pay their employee? and by this i dont mean what you agree to with your employer. with big data the employers must know how much the employee is worth per hour and therefore they must know the most they can pay them.
for example, my current employer will pay us time and a half first four hours and then double time next four hours worked on a stat holiday. but we are not allowed to do overtime on a stat im guessing because its no longer profitable for the employer at that point.
for example, my current employer will pay us time and a half first four hours and then double time next four hours worked on a stat holiday. but we are not allowed to do overtime on a stat im guessing because its no longer profitable for the employer at that point.
newfie
Well-Known Member
you've never heard that nor met someone who has no money but does have the latest cell phone?
you might want to come out into the real world and meet real people before you preach to us on societies woes?
no matter how you cut it, incomes are down from their peak in 1970s.
and like i said ive never read articles on that, although there is a big critique on consumerism. its true some people overspend on their clothes
and when the median wage is $16/hr, what do you expect?
newfie
Well-Known Member
Ricky Bobby there is poor and there is ignorant poor . my family was poor. They did not beg for handouts they learned how to be frugal and save for a rainy day. They would never have spent 700 dollars on an apple phone when they did not have a pot to piss in. When you blame the system the poor will feel helpless and never ever fend for theirselves. when you encourage responsible behavior you encourage them to pull theirselves up by their boot straps you give them their dignity back.
i encourage responsibility - the workers who produce the goods should also be responsible for making the decisions at their job, instead of taking orders from a minority.
lets not forget what malcolm x said about power. its gonna be up to the poor and middle class to rise up to take the power.
oldngray
nowhere special
If you want to make the decisions go start your own company. If you instead choose to work for someone else you can't expect to also be allowed to make the decisions.
thats what you think, and thats because you think capitalism is reasonable just like people in the past thought slavery / feudalism were reasonable for the same reasons.
a few hundred years ago political democracy was a radical idea. we take it for granted now.
economic democracy is a radical idea now. people wont think twice in the future if it catches on.
oldngray
nowhere special
fixed it for you
capitalism is already failing, it failed environmentally a long time ago, but now its failing in america across the board. which is why more democrats support socialism than capitalism now.
even though alot of the guys i listen to talk about worker controlled industy, id like to know how thats supposed to fix global warming
oldngray
nowhere special
Socialism? ROFL!
21st Century Socialism Brings No Toilet Paper, TV, Or Long Distance Phone Service To Venezuela
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...r-long-distance-service-to-venezuela-n2151341
CAPITALISM? ROFL! POLICE STATE? ROFL! RIGGED ELECTIONS? ROFL! DECLINING STANDARD OF LIVING? ROFL!
there are more things influencing venezuela's economy than just socialism. for example america tried to stage a coup there in the 2000s.
oldngray
nowhere special
Cooperatives ARE capitalists.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dont_believe_media_coverage_of_venezuela_20150305
since you have such an "open mind" heres one for ya
That's the only way some of these small companies can survive.
Very hard to make a good living farming or dairy ,when you are dealing with mega farms.
moreluck
golden ticket member
only ONE kind of Democrat.....DELUSIONAL!
yea i was listening to the ralph nader radio hour and he was interviewing some farmer and they were talking about monsanto and whatever, i dunno
A lot of companies could almost be considered a co op in some shape or form.
Look at UPS. We do stuff for the post office and they do stuff for us.
thats a different definition of cooperative.
anyways, you guys should be telling me this stuff being all old and supposedly wise
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