If Apple Were A Worker Cooperative, Each Employee Would Earn At Least $403K. what about UPS?

[rickyb]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/cameron...ative-each-employee-would-earn-at-least-403k/

If Apple Were A Worker Cooperative, Each Employee Would Earn At Least $403K

a cooperative is a democratic economic system, it goes beyond corporate capitalism, and beyond the myth that there are 2 choices: capitalism and government controlled jobs.


If UPS Were A Worker Cooperative, what would Each Employee earn? $150k, $125k?

 

[oldngray]

If you love socialism so much why don't you move to a socialist country? And why are you so obsessed with the US which isn't even your own country?

 

[Babagounj]

Go to Venezuela , but remember to pack your own toilet paper .

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The average full time driver makes that much already.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

Not enough to put up with all the BS that will come with it

 

[rickyb]

The average full time driver makes that much already.

that was $403,000 each year in addition to the salary...

 

[rickyb]

Not enough to put up with all the BS that will come with it

sure but you could say with capitalism carries alot of bagage too and probably more:
-CEO to worker pay
-wage theft
-undesirable working conditions like no radio or whatever
-unsafe working conditions
-too much or too little hours
-work with people you dont like

to name a few.

 

[Catatonic]

If Apple were a Worker Cooperative, it would be no larger than 1% the size it is now or more than likely not exist.
TOP down decision making and Capitalization were paramount to Apple getting to where it is.

It would be like asking what if Hannibal had an friend-16, no difference in the end.

 

[bbsam]

If Apple were a Worker Cooperative, it would be no larger than 1% the size it is now or more than likely not exist.
TOP down decision making and Capitalization were paramount to Apple getting to where it is.

It would be like asking what if Hannibal had an friend-16, no difference in the end.

Really? If Hannibal had an friend-16, where would he land it? Jeesh!

 

[Babagounj]

Really? If Hannibal had an friend-16, where would he land it? Jeesh!

First off how would he get the damn thing it the air ?

 

[oldngray]

Didn't Michael Douglas already do that with an friend-16 in Jewel of the Nile?

 

[Catatonic]

Really? If Hannibal had an friend-16, where would he land it? Jeesh!

First off how would he get the damn thing it the air ?

Yep ... you understand.

Didn't Michael Douglas already do that with an friend-16 in Romancing the Stone??

A large Corporation developed through a Worker Cooperative is possible in the movies.

 

[oldngray]

 

[bottomups]

Really? If Hannibal had an friend-16, where would he land it? Jeesh!

Some of those Roman roads are still in use.
To bad our road constructions companies can't build something that would last more than a few decades.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

Also it would only be about 5,000 on top of salary

 

[rickyb]

If Apple were a Worker Cooperative, it would be no larger than 1% the size it is now or more than likely not exist.
TOP down decision making and Capitalization were paramount to Apple getting to where it is.

It would be like asking what if Hannibal had an friend-16, no difference in the end.

its quite possible apple would be smaller than it is. its important to note that the 7th biggest business in spain is Mondragon Cooperative with semi worker control, wihch is not a capitalist business.

 

[ImWaitingForTheDay]

Some of those Roman roads are still in use.
To bad our road constructions companies can't build something that would last more than a few decades.

I once read that most of the damage comes from large semi trucks.. UPS, Fed wreck, yellow,and the rest....

 

[HEFFERNAN]

Apple makes their money off the low-waged hard-working 3rd world market of Mongolia, China, Korea and Taiwan.

UPS pays U.S. wages to U.S. employees from U.S. shippers. The bottom line is tighter when you don't have a product but a service.
Plus the amount of employees (full-time,part-time, and seasonal) is too high to even compete with Apple's bottom line (worker cooperative style).

 

[HEFFERNAN]

sure but you could say with capitalism carries alot of bagage too and probably more:
-CEO to worker pay
-wage theft
-undesirable working conditions like no radio or whatever
-unsafe working conditions
-too much or too little hours
-work with people you dont like

to name a few.

How 'bout you take Justin Bieber back and we'll keep our capitalism.
You crazy canucks with your monopoly money are too funny !!!

 

[oldngray]

How 'bout you take Justin Bieber back and we'll keep our capitalism.
You crazy canucks with your monopoly money are too funny !!!

They even call their money loonies.