If Apple Were A Worker Cooperative, Each Employee Would Earn At Least $403K. what about UPS?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by rickyb, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/cameron...ative-each-employee-would-earn-at-least-403k/

    If Apple Were A Worker Cooperative, Each Employee Would Earn At Least $403K

    a cooperative is a democratic economic system, it goes beyond corporate capitalism, and beyond the myth that there are 2 choices: capitalism and government controlled jobs.


    If UPS Were A Worker Cooperative, what would Each Employee earn? $150k, $125k?
     
  2. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    If you love socialism so much why don't you move to a socialist country? And why are you so obsessed with the US which isn't even your own country?
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  3. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Go to Venezuela , but remember to pack your own toilet paper .
     
  4. The average full time driver makes that much already.
     
  5. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    Not enough to put up with all the BS that will come with it
     
  6. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    that was $403,000 each year in addition to the salary...
     
  7. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    sure but you could say with capitalism carries alot of bagage too and probably more:
    -CEO to worker pay
    -wage theft
    -undesirable working conditions like no radio or whatever
    -unsafe working conditions
    -too much or too little hours
    -work with people you dont like

    to name a few.
     
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    If Apple were a Worker Cooperative, it would be no larger than 1% the size it is now or more than likely not exist.
    TOP down decision making and Capitalization were paramount to Apple getting to where it is.

    It would be like asking what if Hannibal had an F-16, no difference in the end.
     
  9. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Really? If Hannibal had an F-16, where would he land it? Jeesh!
     
  10. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    First off how would he get the damn thing it the air ?
     
  11. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Didn't Michael Douglas already do that with an F-16 in Jewel of the Nile?
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Yep ... you understand.

    A large Corporation developed through a Worker Cooperative is possible in the movies.
     
  13. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

     
  14. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Some of those Roman roads are still in use.
    To bad our road constructions companies can't build something that would last more than a few decades.
     
  15. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    Also it would only be about 5,000 on top of salary
     
  16. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    its quite possible apple would be smaller than it is. its important to note that the 7th biggest business in spain is Mondragon Cooperative with semi worker control, wihch is not a capitalist business.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  17. ImWaitingForTheDay

    ImWaitingForTheDay Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself

    I once read that most of the damage comes from large semi trucks.. UPS, Fed wreck, yellow,and the rest....
     
  18. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Apple makes their money off the low-waged hard-working 3rd world market of Mongolia, China, Korea and Taiwan.

    UPS pays U.S. wages to U.S. employees from U.S. shippers. The bottom line is tighter when you don't have a product but a service.
    Plus the amount of employees (full-time,part-time, and seasonal) is too high to even compete with Apple's bottom line (worker cooperative style).
     
  19. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    How 'bout you take Justin Bieber back and we'll keep our capitalism.
    You crazy canucks with your monopoly money are too funny !!!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    They even call their money loonies.