Is America Built on a Lie?

[wkmac]

Brits make an interesting case by using Lincoln to discredit the secessionists of the 1770's.

 

[Babagounj]

A mock trial, big deal.

 

[wkmac]

Good and evil doesn't have a grey zone. Killing and stealing is bad. Violence is never "good" or necessary unless it is used to defend against killers and thieves. Indeed, that is the morality behind the "just war" principle as defined by international laws and treaties.

Yet, this simple concept of right and wrong gets muddled by differing ideas about religion, patriotism, economics and many other divisions. The "just war" rule has crumbled under the ambitions of empires throughout history. The American-led Anglo Saxon empire is no different.

This empire has been brutally conquering and colonizing territory since the fall of Rome. However, it has only gained an American face in the last century. The United States quickly emerged as the world's "superpower" primarily through its economic might. For some time, many believed the U.S. to be a shining example of economic freedom for other nations to emulate. Indeed, America was eager to promote "economic freedom" globally to open new markets for U.S.-based corporations.

When foreign leaders refused to allow these corporate interests into their country, those leaders were replaced through a variety of covert actions. The form of government that would be installed did not matter to the empire makers so long as the corporate interests were served. In most cases these nations simply surrendered to the seemingly unlimited power of the almighty dollar, thus camouflaging the traditional method of forceful empire building.

10 Reasons America Will Be Judged as the Most Brutal Empire in History

 

[bbsam]

It may be that the original declaration was illegal and treasonous, but the subsequent Revolutionary War righted the illegality and established the worlds recognition of the United States of America. The Confederacy attempted the same thing and lost. I've said before and I will say it again: sometimes people choose the court in which their case is settled. It can be the court-room, a wooded area of Ruby Ridge, a compoud in Waco Texas or the battlefields of the Eastern U.S. Illegal? Maybe. But it doesn't change the reality on the ground.

 

[moreluck]

It may be that the original declaration was illegal and treasonous, but the subsequent Revolutionary War righted the illegality and established the worlds recognition of the United States of America. The Confederacy attempted the same thing and lost. I've said before and I will say it again: sometimes people choose the court in which their case is settled. It can be the court-room, a wooded area of Ruby Ridge, a compoud in Waco Texas or the battlefields of the Eastern U.S. Illegal? Maybe. But it doesn't change the reality on the ground.

So slavery is still legal?

 

[Catatonic]

So slavery is still legal?

Lucy, you got some explaining to do?

 

[bbsam]

So slavery is still legal?

Not sure where you came up with that. Remember, the Conferate states lost.

 

[moreluck]

Not sure where you came up with that. Remember, the Conferate states lost.

Oh, I thought everything today was backwards....................nevermind.

 

[bbsam]

Never do.

 

[wkmac]

Oh, I thought everything today was backwards....................nevermind.

Listen to her bbsam, she speaks from direct experience!

 

[bbsam]

Never.

 

[moreluck]

Listen to her bbsam, she speaks from direct experience!

I meant I thought bb was saying everything was backwards.

 

[wkmac]

[video=youtube;FQaNT3ymbsU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQaNT3ymbsU&NR=1[/video]

 

[moreluck]

So, it's King Obama.......I'm not surprised, he said 'change'!!