thedownhillEXPRESS
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http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...as-top-court-ruling-they-re-employees-1-.html
Screw you Fred and your race to the bottom.
Screw you Fred and your race to the bottom.
Kansas comes through!
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MAKAVELI
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Ride or die till the end bb?
Well, it's a decision on appeal from 2011. That means it was a challenge to the IC rather than the ISP model. ISP hasn't been challenged that I know of. Could be a bunch of contractors in more states about to get reamed just like gixxer squid in California.Ride or die till the end bb?
MAKAVELI
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It's also pay day for those contractors. If isp is the indestructible model, then why hasn't every state already gone to this model?
That's easy. ISP is substantially more expensive. If they don't have to transition, they don't.
MAKAVELI
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And it's easy to see that if every state goes isp their profit margins will take a hit.
Not nearly as large a hit as classifying each contractor as a driver. I
CJinx
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That is a short-sighted way of looking at it. The money made operating in this manner for as long as they did far outweighs the money spent on the lawsuit, the payouts to the state and past and present contractors involved, and the cost of transition to ISP. Just another example of how major corporations are essentially above the law: they know they can afford the consequences and still come out ahead.
In the end, everyone wins in the short-term: the company makes the transition to stay compliant while operating "in the black", the state gets back taxes and penalties (the real reason that AGs bring these suits), and the former/current contractors get a windfall payout from the remaining funds after the lawyers take their cut.
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
Well apparently your sense of ethics falls in the "Smith" category, way down the toilet. Corporations should face stiffer penalties for their actions.
Everyone wins? Yeah, except the drivers. I guess they don't matter. Why don't you try doing a route for at least a week and let us know how much you enjoyed it.
CJinx
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Nowhere in my post did I judge the ethics behind the business decisions. Decisions like this are not exclusive to this company. Adelphia, Enron, Koch Industries, virtually every loan agency with ties to Freddie Mac, etc.
It's never been about the drivers. This is/was an issue between the contractor, Fedex, and the state.
MAKAVELI
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It's always been about the drivers. Here's anosther card taken from FedEx's house of cards.
http://www.law360.com/articles/584034/nlrb-says-fedex-drivers-are-employees-not-contractors
http://www.law360.com/articles/584034/nlrb-says-fedex-drivers-are-employees-not-contractors
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
What's this Kansas you speak of?
Can you guess what happens next?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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MFE will remind us what a scam the contractor model is.
Gateway to the Land of Oz where a great and powerful wizard waits to destroy the evil Fred S and his minions.
MAKAVELI
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Another state will rule Ground drivers are FedEx employees, and another, another, and so on.
Each state will become ISP states and contractors like gixxer squid will say "WTF?!?! I thought we won!!"
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