Kansas comes through!

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by thedownhillEXPRESS, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

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  2. BigTex61

    BigTex61 Active Member

    Screw you Freddie! How do you like that early Xmas gift.
     
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  3. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Yeah, screw you Smith!

    Nice to see you on the losing end.
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Does this fundamentally change anything or add to the number of states soon to be transitioning to ISP?
     
  5. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Ride or die till the end bb?;)
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Well, it's a decision on appeal from 2011. That means it was a challenge to the IC rather than the ISP model. ISP hasn't been challenged that I know of. Could be a bunch of contractors in more states about to get reamed just like gixxer squid in California.
     
  7. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    It's also pay day for those contractors. If isp is the indestructible model, then why hasn't every state already gone to this model?
     
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    That's easy. ISP is substantially more expensive. If they don't have to transition, they don't.
     
  9. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    And it's easy to see that if every state goes isp their profit margins will take a hit.
     
  10. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Not nearly as large a hit as classifying each contractor as a driver. I
     
  11. CJinx

    CJinx Well-Known Member

    That is a short-sighted way of looking at it. The money made operating in this manner for as long as they did far outweighs the money spent on the lawsuit, the payouts to the state and past and present contractors involved, and the cost of transition to ISP. Just another example of how major corporations are essentially above the law: they know they can afford the consequences and still come out ahead.

    In the end, everyone wins in the short-term: the company makes the transition to stay compliant while operating "in the black", the state gets back taxes and penalties (the real reason that AGs bring these suits), and the former/current contractors get a windfall payout from the remaining funds after the lawyers take their cut.
     
  12. Cactus

    Cactus Just telling it like it is

    Well apparently your sense of ethics falls in the "Smith" category, way down the toilet. Corporations should face stiffer penalties for their actions.

    Everyone wins? Yeah, except the drivers. I guess they don't matter. Why don't you try doing a route for at least a week and let us know how much you enjoyed it.
     
  13. CJinx

    CJinx Well-Known Member

    Nowhere in my post did I judge the ethics behind the business decisions. Decisions like this are not exclusive to this company. Adelphia, Enron, Koch Industries, virtually every loan agency with ties to Freddie Mac, etc.
    It's never been about the drivers. This is/was an issue between the contractor, Fedex, and the state.
     
  14. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

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  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    What's this Kansas you speak of?
     
  16. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    MFE will remind us what a scam the contractor model is.
     
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  18. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Gateway to the Land of Oz where a great and powerful wizard waits to destroy the evil Fred Smith and his minions.
     
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  19. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Another state will rule Ground drivers are FedEx employees, and another, another, and so on.
     
  20. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Each state will become ISP states and contractors like gixxer squid will say "WTF?!?! I thought we won!!"