Know your enemy (Unions) training for Lowe's management

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by I Am Jacks Damaged Box, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. I Am Jacks Damaged Box

    I Am Jacks Damaged Box Well-Known Member

    The fact that this baby is the length of a feature film says a ton about just how much Corporate America is scared of Unions. And about how lazy, intellectually inferior and ineffectual most managers are these days.

    ‚ÄčThis video did make one excellent point about how destructive a corrupt Union can be.

    [video=youtube;AsleIuQnBtQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsleIuQnBtQ[/video]
     
  2. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    If corporate America is so scared, where is the union push to organize across America. One cheaply made full length video is nothing to the hundreds of billions of dollars these companies make.
     
  3. Corporate America will spend a hundred dollars to screw you out of a nickel!!!and keep the share holders happy!!!YAY
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    More importantly to shareholders, they will spend billions to save the trillions they would spend on paying a "living wage".
     
  5. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    If corporate America isn't scared of unions than why spend billions to keep them out?
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    because billions compared to trillions is nothing. They have the money to spend, why not?
     
  7. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Exactly. That's why they are scared of what they would have to pay, trillions instead of billions.
     
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    It's a "shrug of the shoulders" decision. Not something they spend sleepless nights worrying about. Think of it like taking out an insurance policy in order to not worry about crippling events in the future.
     
  9. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Exactly. Look at the millions Smith has spent to keep his precious RLA anti-union Kryptonite. Add-in the influence of Right Wing radio and FOX, and you have a bunch of white middle-class workers who are foaming at the mouth helping to kick themselves out of the middle-class by attacking unions, especially public sector unions and teachers. Morons.
     
  10. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, those public sector unions are fighting to have your tax dollars spent on them, with gold plated benefits. How dare anyone object to that?!!
     
  11. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member


    Their benefits used to be the middle class standard.
    Just like MFE said, the right wingers have people like yourself attacking them instead of asking what happened to yours.
     
  12. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    Oh come on, the middle class standard? Teachers in California, for example, can retire at 50. Stockton, CA's problems are due to extremely generous benefits to public employees. Paying that puts a serious burden on state taxpayers and in every state with high state taxes you see people leaving for states with lower taxes, further straining the ability to pay. Look at the problems in Europe. We'd all like a workers' paradise but it doesn't work. I truly wish it did but it doesn't. Be one of the lucky ones and get in early because sooner or later the system will fail and let alot of people counting on a generous retirement down.
     
  13. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    All standard Right Wing talking points. Let's use your GOP logic and apply Fred's "solution", which means no pension for anyone and substandard wages with few or no benefits. There...problem solved. Oh...nobody left in the middle class and a bunch of even richer Fat Cats? Perfect!! The Free Market at work!!

    A few facts you missed. Public sector employees typically get paid far less than private sector workers doing the same thing. The tradeoff was better retirement benefits. Teachers and other public sector workers in CA can only retire early under certain defined circumstances. You make it seem like they all can retire early...not the case. Same for cops and firefighters, and the CA system has been drastically modified.

    "Worker's Paradise" sounds like some sort of Soviet plot, doesn't it? Hey van, you're a smart guy. Why don't you try thinking for yourself instead of having FOX do it for you?
     
  14. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    It does seem, van, like you would be fine with the public sector being dragged to private sector wages and benefits. Why not go the other way and raise the standards of the private sector?
     
  15. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Stockton's problems were due to the recession and housing bubble, not their public employee benefits.
     
  16. hypo hanna

    hypo hanna Well-Known Member

    I know plenty of schoolteachers and I can assure you, the benefits aren't that great.
     
  17. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Anyone who states teachers are overpaid is either ignorant or a jackass or both.
     
  18. purplesky

    purplesky Active Member

    Its amazing that not that long ago EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT HOW UNDERPAID TEACHERS ARE. Now with TOTAL Corporate capitolism and THE OUTSOURCING OF AMERICA ALMOST COMPLETE the Wingnuts and FOX NEWS are going after teachers and cops and firefighters and GOV workers.

    Nobody wanted those jobs in the HIGH FLYING 90s. THE PAY WAS TOO LOW.:wink2:

    I also know alot of teachers and they do not have a GOLD PLATED RETIREMENT PLAN. THATS JUST RIGHT WING-FOX NEWS TALKING POINT CRAP.
     
  19. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Public sector unions are basically the last man standing.
    The right wing is trying to knock them out leaving no major organization left to fight against corporate America .
     
  20. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Our education system must be failing. Just look at all the Right Wing idiots it produces. You are so right about public sector unions. Teachers where I live start at around $35,000 and topout in the low 50's, after many years AND either a Masters Degree or a Advanced Teaching Certificate. Nobody is getting rich, and the retirement benefits are not stellar either. The GOP has been attacking public sector unions non-stop because it is part of the party platform. The biggest target is the USPS, the largest union employer in the US...and right in the GOP bullseye.

    Oh, and on Stockton. That area experienced over a 50% drop in real estate values during the Dubya Depression. Think plummeting property tax revenue had anything to do with the city's fiscal crisis? Nah...just a bunch of Commies looking for free stuff.