Labor Relations

[PT Car Washer]

Who does the work this 22.3 helper vacates?

Who's job does the Art 22.3 driver helper replace?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Who's job does the Art 22.3 driver helper replace?

Who does the work this 22.3 helper vacates?

Who has even bothered to file a grievance ??



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[hondo]

Who's job does the Art 22.3 driver helper replace?

Are you asking if there are fewer drivers drivers because of these 22.3 helpers? Probably a few.

 

[Inthegame]

Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. What I tried asking was when a 22.3 becomes a "helper" what happens to the 22.3 work they previously did? Is it filled by pt's?

 

[2 hrs over allowed]

22.3's in my center touch air pkgs and that's it. No ground deliveries. The sometimes use them in emergency situations when it's heavy or too many book offs. They would make top rate if any ground pkgs are touched.

 

[PT Car Washer]

22.3's in my center touch air pkgs and that's it. No ground deliveries. The sometimes use them in emergency situations when it's heavy or too many book offs. They would make top rate if any ground pkgs are touched.

I assume you are talking about Art 22.3 Air Drivers. For awhile UPS was loading our Air Drivers up with 50 or more ground stops after running their air. Paid them top rate but turned most of them into 12 hour days everyday. Union put a stop to it and made UPS hire more FT drivers. Now the new FT drivers are laid off and putting all the extra work on remaining package car drivers. Going to be a long summer.

 

[hondo]

Sorry, my post wasn't very clear. What I tried asking was when a 22.3 becomes a "helper" what happens to the 22.3 work they previously did? Is it filled by pt's?

The 22.3 bid description is either Preload/Helper or Helper/Twilight.

 

[Lead Belly]

The 22.3 bid description is either Preload/Helper or Helper/Twilight.

I just don't know how anyone could agree to helpers year around.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Thats funny the hoffa administration gave ups an extension on using helpers well into Jan. How many driving jobs did that cost. An extension on peak? The hits just keep on coming

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[2 hrs over allowed]

I assume you are talking about Art 22.3 Air Drivers. For awhile UPS was loading our Air Drivers up with 50 or more ground stops after running their air. Paid them top rate but turned most of them into 12 hour days everyday. Union put a stop to it and made UPS hire more FT drivers. Now the new FT drivers are laid off and putting all the extra work on remaining package car drivers. Going to be a long summer.

Same here. Air drivers were working 12-13 hrs doin ground splits and running misloads. Now they come in do early am's and then sit on there ass all day. The most coveted job in my center

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Thats funny the hoffa administration gave ups an extension on using helpers well into Jan.

Hoffa did that ?

I'm almost certain, the members ratified the contract by voting.

How many driving jobs did that cost ?

None.


Ask any (real) pkg car driver.... if they have a problem with that.



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[5habits100]

Thats funny the hoffa administration gave ups an extension on using helpers well into Jan. How many driving jobs did that cost. An extension on peak? The hits just keep on coming

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Is that language in the national contract? If so where is it?

 

[5habits100]

Thats funny the hoffa administration gave ups an extension on using helpers well into Jan. How many driving jobs did that cost. An extension on peak? The hits just keep on coming

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How many driving jobs did it cost?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Is that language in the national contract? If so where is it?

It's supplemental language.

More TDU.... BS.

How many driving jobs did it cost?

None.


I will wait, "with bated breath" on the response.... from the poser.


Um.... I meant poster.



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[Lead Belly]

It's supplemental language.

More TDU.... BS.



None.


I will wait, "with bated breath" on the response.... from the poser.


Um.... I meant poster.



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You can't polish a turd TDU still sucks and it's 8 o'clock at night.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You can't polish a turd

And yet....

They keep trying to "polish" each others egos.


But, at the end of the day.... they are still turds.



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[5habits100]

It's supplemental language.

More TDU.... BS.



None.


I will wait, "with bated breath" on the response.... from the poser.


Um.... I meant poster.



-Bug-

That's why I asked the poser because it isn't in the NM. He likes to spew garbage when he doesn't know what he is talking about.

It's 8:21 and TDU still sucks

 

[Lead Belly]

 

[Wally]

Who is that rotund fellow?

 

[Bubblehead]

It's supplemental language.

More TDU.... BS.

It is for sure Central Region Supplemental language.

Where there any other supplements that adopted this "philosophy"?
Did any other region extend the peak season during this last round of negotiations?