Although you may not believe this. I do believe that UPS should pay the highest wages in the industry, for all groups. However, there is a limit to how much higher they can pay us. If we pay $43, and other mechanics make a few dollars less, then a decent bump probably makes sense. But if other mechanics at FDX for example make only 33, then it doesn't make sense to give increases, when the pay is so different already. I don't know what the pay for mechanics are at FDX, but I'd like to know if you folks know that. The other thing that seems odd, is that it seems like many union folks get upset that UPS makes billions in profits. Our profit margin is less then 10%, and of that profit, a lot of it goes towards long term investments in buying jets, building buildings, buying pkg cars. Also it goes towards dividends of shareowners. That's where the majority of the profit goes. If UPS didn't make profits, we'd be in trouble like YRC is right now. It's good (IMO) that UPS is profitable.